What are the shape functions for a polynomial with given boundary conditions?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining shape functions for a polynomial based on specific boundary conditions related to a beam fixed at both ends. The scope includes homework-related inquiries and mathematical reasoning regarding the formulation of shape functions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses difficulty in determining two shape functions from a polynomial given boundary conditions, suggesting that using x/L and (x/L)^2 might be valid but uncertain about how to derive them from the polynomial.
  • One participant suggests that the equations provided do not differentiate sufficiently and points out that there are more parameters than constraints, indicating a potential issue in the formulation.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of using proper notation, specifically \LaTeX, to facilitate understanding and assistance.
  • The original poster later indicates they resolved the issue independently but expresses frustration at the lack of help received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to determine the shape functions, and there is disagreement regarding the adequacy of the information provided for assistance.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the clarity of the original post, particularly the absence of the polynomial equation and boundary conditions in the text, which may hinder effective responses.

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Homework Statement



I am asked to determine two shape functions based off of a polynomial and Boundary conditions that are given at this url: http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/TechNewsSource/ShapeFunctions.jpg"

I would have posted it here but I can't remember how to do symbols on forums.

The Attempt at a Solution



Anyways, using the prescribed boundary conditions, which are the result of a beam fixed at both ends, I couldn't determine what to use for the two shape functions. I know that using x/L and (x/L)^2 would be valid shape functions, but I am not sure how to determine the shape functions based off of the given polynomial. I am sure it is something simple I am missing, but I just couldn't figure it out. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
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Anyone have an idea?
 
jon8105 said:
I would have posted it here but I can't remember how to do symbols on forums.

try going to any number of posts that has math formulae in it, click "Quote" and see how they did it.

the two [itex]\Psi[/itex] equations have nothing differentiating them from each other. the second one tells you nothing that the first one doesn't already tell you, which is not enough. you have 4 parameters to determine and only 2 constraints.

i would recommend that people refrain from helping until you make it easier for them to do so (by learning [itex]\LaTeX[/itex] and using it).
 
The link shows all the information that was provided, so why are you telling people not to help because the information is not in the post? It is very easy to right click on the link and open in a new tab!

Also, there is only one equation given, that is to be used to determine two shape functions. I am not sure if the unknowns (a,b,c and d) are to be used, but are in the eq. to show the definition of the polynomial.
 
Nevermind, I figured it out myself. However, it doesn't look like I was going to get help anyways.
 

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