What Capacitor Size Is Needed for a Rapid Discharge Application?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate capacitor size for a rapid discharge application, specifically for heating a piece of nichrome wire. Participants explore the necessary current, voltage, and duration of discharge required for the application, as well as the characteristics of the load involved.

Discussion Character

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand how to calculate the required capacitance to supply 1.7 Amps at 0.23 volts for a short duration.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of knowing the duration of the discharge and the acceptable voltage drop, suggesting that the load may not be purely resistive.
  • A participant clarifies that the load is nichrome wire and specifies that the discharge needs to last around 1 to 2 seconds, with the voltage able to drop to zero.
  • Concerns are raised about the participant's understanding of capacitive discharge, with a reference to an article explaining the process.
  • A later reply references the article and attempts to apply the equations presented to calculate the capacitance, arriving at a value of 0.1 farads, while questioning if this approach is correct.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding capacitive discharge and its application in this context. There is no consensus on the correct approach to calculating the required capacitance, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the calculations and assumptions made.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for additional information about the load characteristics and the assumptions made in the calculations, such as the nature of the load and the duration of the discharge.

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This is a pretty simple question, one that there is likely a simple answer to. So, I need to use a capacitor as a rapid dump battery, not a filter or anything. The required current for this application is 1.7 Amps, and only 0.23 volts is necessary. I'm not too sure as to what amount of farads a capacitor should have to supply this amount of power. If I'm missing anything, or you need more information, just let me know. Thanks in advance.
 
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JoeSalerno said:
This is a pretty simple question, one that there is likely a simple answer to. So, I need to use a capacitor as a rapid dump battery, not a filter or anything. The required current for this application is 1.7 Amps, and only 0.23 volts is necessary. I'm not too sure as to what amount of farads a capacitor should have to supply this amount of power. If I'm missing anything, or you need more information, just let me know. Thanks in advance.
It is also necessary to know how long the dump is supposed to sustain 1.7amps and how low the voltage is allowed to go to be acceptable. Also it would be helpful to know what the load is. 1.7 amps at .23 volts implies an Ohmic load of .135 ohms but if the load is not purely resistive (and I suspect it is not) that can matter.
 
The load is a very small piece of nichrome wire. The power only needs to be supplied long enough to heat the wire, so it should be around 1 to 2 seconds. If you happen to know how I could find out how fast the wire would heat up that would be great. The voltage would be able to drop down to zero, as the capacitor only has to dump it's electricity once. This capacitor is practically acting like a quick battery.
 
phinds said:
Do you understand capacitive discharge through an ohmic load (which is what you have after all)? You seem to think it's like throwing a switch on a battery on and then off again. It doesn't work like that.
http://www.learningaboutelectronics.com/Articles/Capacitor-discharging.php
After looking at that article, the simple example circuit it shows is exactly what I'm trying to do. It's just a switch, capacitor, and the resistor (nichrome). The purpose of this circuit is to just heat the piece of nichrome up once very fast. I understand it will have to be recharged after every power drain. Looking at the equation given on the website, I realized a few things. I'm pulling my voltages and amperage from a nichrome calculator btw. I'll assume a wattage that correlates with a higher temperature as the starting voltage, and the wattage that correlates with the lower temperature I need as the post-drain voltage. So Vc=0.23 Vo=0.48 t=1 R=0.14 and I will solve for C.
0.23=0.48e^(-1/0.14C)
0.48=e^(-7.14C)
ln0.48=-7.14C
C=0.1
Am I on the right track here, or am I still off in lala land?
 
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