What Causes a Negative Drag Coefficient in Projectile Trajectory?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of a negative drag coefficient in the context of projectile motion, specifically when fitting a curve to the trajectory of a ball thrown into the air. Participants explore the implications of this negative coefficient in relation to drag models and the accuracy of their data fitting.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the need for a negative drag coefficient to fit the actual trajectory of the projectile to the expected trajectory with quadratic drag.
  • Another participant suggests checking for potential sign errors in the equations being used.
  • A request is made for the equation being used, indicating that an analytical solution for motion with drag may help identify issues.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of a negative drag coefficient, suggesting it could indicate that the projectile is moving faster than predicted by freefall.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the correctness of the signs in the equations and whether the negative drag coefficient is valid. Multiple competing views remain on how to interpret the negative coefficient and its implications.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the accuracy of the model equations being used and the assumptions underlying the data fitting process. The discussion does not clarify the specific model or equations involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in projectile motion, drag modeling, and data fitting in experimental physics may find this discussion relevant.

Magpye17
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Hi,
I am working on a video capture project in which i am videoing the projectile of a ball that is being thrown in the air and trying to fit it to a curve for the expected trajectory of a projectile with quadratic drag.I am running into the issue that in order for my expected trajectory to fit the actual trajectory of the ball the drag coefficient must be negative. Why is that?
 
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Have you checked that you don't have a sign wrong somewhere else?
 
If you show your equation, there is a change that someone may figure out the problem.
Do you have an analytical solution for the motion with drag?
 
boneh3ad said:
Have you checked that you don't have a sign wrong somewhere else?
I am manipulating the data on an expected drag curve and in order to get my data to fit the curve i had to input a negative drag coefficient
 
Into what do you input that drag coefficient? Do you have a formula?
 
Magpye17 said:
I am manipulating the data on an expected drag curve and in order to get my data to fit the curve i had to input a negative drag coefficient

Right so my question is related to that curve. Clearly that curve comes from some sort of model equation, so have you made sure the signs are correct in that model. A negative drag coefficient in a model where the signs were correct would imply that your projectile is moving faster than what is predicted by freefall. Is that actually the case here?
 

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