What Causes the Rocks to Slide on Death Valley's Racetrack Playa?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the phenomenon of rocks sliding on the Racetrack Playa in Death Valley, California. Participants explore various theories regarding the mechanisms behind this movement, including environmental factors and physical forces. The conversation encompasses speculative reasoning, potential experimental approaches, and observations from personal experiences at the site.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a difference in forces acting on the rocks and the ground must occur for movement to happen, exceeding the static friction force.
  • One viewpoint suggests that wind alone is insufficient to move the rocks directly, but it could indirectly influence movement by affecting an ice sheet that pushes the rocks.
  • Another hypothesis involves ice movement caused by expansion against the dry lake bed, potentially providing sufficient force for rock movement.
  • Some participants speculate that thermal expansion and contraction of the ground could create minor deviations in topography, allowing rocks to move slightly downhill.
  • There are suggestions for measuring temperature differences between rocks and the ground to investigate the role of heat in the movement process.
  • A personal account mentions the possibility of wet conditions making the surface slippery, contributing to the rocks' movement.
  • One participant raises questions about the mechanics of ice sheets and their ability to exert force on the bedrock, citing potential inconsistencies with current understanding.
  • Another participant shares anecdotal observations of unusual trails and phenomena encountered during a visit to the Playa, suggesting that some trails defy conventional explanations.
  • A reference to a Wikipedia article summarizes the phenomenon, noting that the rocks move infrequently and leave distinct tracks, with strong winter winds and wet conditions being potential factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of competing views regarding the mechanisms behind the rocks' movement, and no consensus is reached on a definitive explanation. Various hypotheses are presented, with some participants challenging or refining earlier claims.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of direct observation of the rocks in motion, dependence on environmental conditions, and the need for further experimental validation of proposed mechanisms.

  • #91
Very cool! Thanks billiards!
 
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  • #92
^^ what Evo said ^^
 
  • #93
The video is wrong about this being "the most boring experiment ever". Two years wait is nothing compared with http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-28402709

Prof Mainstone, however, never saw the pitch in motion. In 1979, the sixth drop went on a weekend. In 1988,
with the experiment proudly displayed at Brisbane's World Expo, Prof Mainstone was fetching a drink when the seventh drop fell. By 2000, a video camera had been set up to capture drop number eight, but it malfunctioned at the crucial moment.

When the ninth drop fell in April this year it was watched by three webcams and thousands of online enthusiasts - but not by Prof Mainstone, who died eight months earlier at the age of 78.

:cry:
 
  • #94
billiards said:
A new paper claims to have finally solved this one:

Finally! It only took about 100 years. :) Until now the explanations involved far too much arm waving. But this one seems to be definitive. Thanks for the post. :approve:
 

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