What Components are Needed for Building a High-Performance Computer?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the components necessary for building a high-performance computer specifically for intensive calculations, with a focus on the inclusion of an Nvidia video card and considerations for speed over storage capacity. Participants explore various hardware configurations and their suitability for numerical programming and computational tasks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a budget of $4000 for a machine, emphasizing the need for an Nvidia video card and prioritizing speed over hard drive size.
  • Another participant suggests considering a Core 2 Quad processor and provides links to articles discussing potential builds.
  • A different viewpoint recommends using an ASUS motherboard with dual Opteron or Xeon processors, suggesting a configuration with eight processor cores, eight GB of RAM, and a RAID 5 array for storage.
  • There is a question raised about the necessity of Nvidia GPUs, specifically whether the intended applications benefit from parallel processing capabilities.
  • One participant highlights the advantages of Nvidia's Tesla hardware for computational tasks, mentioning significant performance improvements when using CUDA programming.
  • A suggestion is made to start with two Nvidia cards and expand to four as prices decrease, along with recommendations for a large case and a powerful power supply.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views regarding the best components and configurations for a high-performance computer. There is no consensus on a single optimal setup, and discussions about the necessity of specific hardware, such as Nvidia cards, remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific hardware configurations and brands, but there are no definitive conclusions or agreements on the best approach. The discussion reflects a variety of preferences and assumptions about the requirements for intensive computational tasks.

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Hi guys,

Now I want to build a computer for intensive calculation. I am expecting to spend somewhere 4000 dollars just for machine. The only thing I must need is nvidia video card. hhd size isn't important but the speed is. Do you guys have any suggestion?
 
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robphy said:

Very interesting link. However I am a mathematician not a computer builder. I do find building computer entertaining but I looking for something practical and ready to be used for numerical programming.
 
leon1127 said:
Hi guys,

Now I want to build a computer for intensive calculation. I am expecting to spend somewhere 4000 dollars just for machine. The only thing I must need is nvidia video card. hhd size isn't important but the speed is. Do you guys have any suggestion?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,119273-page,1/article.html
 
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Yes, with $4000, you should be able to build something nice.

With that kind of money, you should probably look at an ASUS board with dual Opteron or Xeon processors. That will give you eight processor cores. Then, you should load it up with eight GB of DDR 2 RAM and one or two Nvidia cards. Buy a 1000-1500 watt power supply.

Also, you should probably have money left over to make a five or six hard drive RAID 5 array. Be sure to buy a UPS.

For about $4000 you can build a very powerful computer, as I mentioned, capable of driving four monitors (which can be used for CUDA if necessary), with eight processor cores.

And, as an added bonus, you could choose to run 64 Bit XP, Vista, or 2008, or most Unix systems, so it should be good for whatever kind of software and operating system you need the workstation for.

Your other option, if it is suitable and you have the technical expertise, is to buy some used computers, install Linux on them, and run a Beowulf cluster, which might be more cost efficient than a single computer, and would not require a graphics card.
 
leon1127 said:
Now I want to build a computer for intensive calculation. I am expecting to spend somewhere 4000 dollars just for machine. The only thing I must need is nvidia video card. hhd size isn't important but the speed is. Do you guys have any suggestion?

Why nVidia?

Does your application benefit from parallelism?
 
Nvidia does currently have more perks when it comes to incorporating the GPU for computational power...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_Tesla

Nvidia blows out Moore’s Law with fresh Tesla
Nvidia pitches its Tesla hardware as a magical solution for the world’s toughest computing problems. Just move your code that runs well across many processors over to the Tesla boards, and Shazam!. You enjoy sometimes 400 per cent improvements in overall performance.

Despite such mind-blowing increases in horsepower, Tesla continues to occupy a space that one could characterize as ultra-niche. Only the brave few have navigated Nvidia’s CUDA programming apparatus to tweak their code for the general purpose graphics processors inside of the Tesla systems.

That ultra-niche, however, may grow into a niche over the coming year thanks to the introduction of more powerful Tesla systems.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/16/nvidia_tesla_10/
 
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I am going to write apps with CUDA. This is the whole idea
 
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Get a big case, a 1500 watt power supply (try ultra), and a motherboard with 4 PCI express x16 slots, and throw in four Nvidia cards (or start out with two, and then add the others when they come down in price).

http://fastra.ua.ac.be/en/index.html
 

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