What Constant c Achieves Critical Damping?

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The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate damping constant \( c \) for a mass-spring system modeled by the equation \( x'' + cx' + 100x = 0 \) to achieve critical damping.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting the discriminant to zero to find conditions for critical damping, with some noting the necessity for \( c \) to be positive. Questions arise regarding the implications of negative damping constants and the nature of the roots in relation to system behavior.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the conditions for critical damping, with participants questioning the assumptions about the sign of \( c \) and its physical implications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the necessity of positive damping for energy dissipation.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the requirement for \( c \) to be positive to ensure that the damping force acts to reduce energy in the system, alongside discussions about the nature of the roots and their impact on system behavior.

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Homework Statement


Suppose a mass- spring is modeled by x''+ cx'+100x. What should the damping constant c be in order that critical damping occurs?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I set the discriminant equal to zero so that there are real repeated roots.
B^2-4ac=0
c^2=400.
c=20 or c=-20.
The answer should only be c=20. For critical damping, the constant must be positive?
 
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rzn972 said:

Homework Statement


Suppose a mass- spring is modeled by x''+ cx'+100x = 0. What should the damping constant c be in order that critical damping occurs?

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution


I set the discriminant equal to zero so that there are real repeated roots.
B^2-4ac=0
c^2=400.
c=20 or c=-20.
The answer should only be c=20. For critical damping, the constant must be positive?

What is the repeated root? You need it to be negative so that x decays with time, do you not?
 
rzn972 said:
For critical damping, the constant must be positive?

For any level of damping, c must be positive.

If c is negative, you are putting energy into the system, not taking energy out.
 
An other way to look at it: damping force must be opposite to x', which it is if c is positive:

x'' = -cx' -100x
 

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