What Determines the Direction of Rotation in a Current Loop?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of a rectangular loop of wire in the presence of a magnetic field generated by a long vertical wire carrying a current. Participants are exploring how the direction of the current in both the wire and the loop affects the rotation of the loop.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the right-hand rule (RHR) to determine the direction of the magnetic forces acting on the loop. Questions are raised about the interaction of the magnetic field with the current in the loop and how these forces might influence the loop's rotation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining the forces on each side of the loop and questioning whether these forces will lead to rotation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the direction of forces on all sides of the loop rather than just their strength.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for discussion. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying principles rather than reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



Consider a long wire running in the vertical direction with a rectangular loop of wire beside it as shown. Now suppose that a constant current, I, flows upward along the long wire, and the same magnitude current, I, flows clockwise in the loop.

As viewed from the top of the page, in which direction does the loop rotate?

(a) clockwise
(b) counterclockwise
(c) The loop does not rotate.


Answer:C

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Homework Equations



F=BIXL

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried use RHR with loop. However, I get answer B because force points to right...
 
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With the current running toward the top of the diagram, which way do its magnetic field lines intersect the sides of the rectangular loop? We know the magnetic field is stronger on the side of the loop closer to the wire, BUT which way does the magnetic force act on the current in each of the four sides of the loop? The important question is: do these forces on the sides of the loop act in a way that will turn the loop out of the plane it is presently lying in?
 
dynamicsolo said:
With the current running toward the top of the diagram, which way do its magnetic field lines intersect the sides of the rectangular loop? We know the magnetic field is stronger on the side of the loop closer to the wire, BUT which way does the magnetic force act on the current in each of the four sides of the loop? The important question is: do these forces on the sides of the loop act in a way that will turn the loop out of the plane it is presently lying in?

do these forces on the sides of the loop act in a way that will turn the loop out of the plane it is presently lying in?

i thought the force on left edge is stronger because it is closer so it would rotate clockwise?
 
syhpui2 said:
i thought the force on left edge is stronger because it is closer so it would rotate clockwise?

To decide whether any rotation will occur, you need to figure out the direction of the forces acting on all four sides. The strength of the forces alone don't decide that question.
 
dynamicsolo said:
To decide whether any rotation will occur, you need to figure out the direction of the forces acting on all four sides. The strength of the forces alone don't decide that question.

Okay. That makes sense.
Thanks
 

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