What did Milikan find in his experiment?

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The discussion revolves around Robert Millikan's oil drop experiment and its significance in determining the charge of an electron. Participants explore the historical context of the definition of the coulomb and its relationship to Millikan's findings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that since the coulomb was defined as the charge of 6.24*10^19 electrons, Millikan's oil drop experiment was unnecessary to find the charge of an electron.
  • Another participant counters that the definition of the coulomb has evolved and that at the time of Millikan's experiment, the concept of electrons was not yet established.
  • A third participant points out that the current definition of the coulomb is based on the charge carried by a current of one ampere in one second, indicating that definitions have changed over time.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty and seeks clarification on the historical definitions used by Millikan.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of the oil drop experiment, with differing views on the historical definitions of the coulomb and the understanding of electrons at the time.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the historical context of the definitions of charge and the understanding of electricity during Millikan's time, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Hi guys. I was searching about electricity lately and noticed something: Milikan determined the charge of an electron as 1.602*10^-18 coulomb(1 e=.1.602*10^-18 C). If he used the unit "coulomb" in his work, coulomb must exist in his times. 1 coulomb is defined as the charge of 6.24*10^19 electrons(1 C= 6.24*10^19). If i take the reverse of (1 C= 6.24*10^19), i get (1 e=.1.602*10^-18 C). In conclusion there was no need to do the oil drop experiment to find the charge of one electron if one coulomb was already defined in his times. Where am i wrong? Which is older, the definition of C or the oil drop experiment?
 
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Okan said:
1 coulomb is defined as the charge of 6.24*10^19 electrons(1 C= 6.24*10^19).
It is not. This is actually a planned definition (just with more precision), but currently and historically the Coulomb had/has different definitions. At that time they did not even know about electrons.

By the way, Coulomb died around 1800, Millikan did his famous experiment in 1910.
 
Okan said:
1 coulomb is defined as the charge of 6.24*10^19 electrons

Where?

One coulomb is currently (pun! :p) defined as the quantity of charge carried by a current of one ampere in one second. The ampere is defined in terms of the magnetic force between two current-carrying wires. These definitions have evolved over time, and I don't know the exact definitions Millikan used.
 
Hmmm... Is that so? Well, it's senseful. Thanks.
 

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