What direction will a compass point at point X?

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The discussion centers on the behavior of a plotting compass when placed near a soft iron ring and a bar magnet. It is established that the compass will point towards the north pole of the magnet when the soft iron ring is present, as the ring effectively contains the magnetic field. The iron ring acts as a conductor of magnetic fields, allowing the magnetic flux to flow through it rather than in the surrounding space. This phenomenon is analogous to the absence of an electric field within a conductor.

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The plotting compass, initially on the left and pointing to the geographical north, is now placed at point X. Which direction it will show?
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I think the arrow will point towards the south pole of the bar magnet (to the left). Is this correct?

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What are your thoughts on the soft iron ring?
 
CWatters said:
What are your thoughts on the soft iron ring?
I am not sure. Maybe the magnetic field produced by the magnet will "follow" or "carried by" the soft iron ring so the magnetic field will circle around the magnet but in the end the direction will still be from north pole to south pole. The compass is affected by magnetic field so it will point to the south pole.

So I guess I am wrong?
 
CWatters said:
Perhaps see "containing the field"...
http://www.coolmagnetman.com/magshield.htm
Oh, so the field will be "contained" by the soft irong ring, leaving a very few or maybe no field at all outside it and the compass will point to the north (same as its initial direction).

But why can soft iron ring contain the field?
 
Iron is a good conductor of magnetic fields, in effect the iron ring "shorts out" the field.

Consider a magnet in free space. Lines of flux run from one pole to the other via the space around the magnet. If you put a piece of iron near the magnet the flux finds it easier to flow in the iron so it takes a "short cut" along the iron rather than the original path.

I suppose it's similar to why there is no electric field in a conductor.
 
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CWatters said:
Iron is a good conductor of magnetic fields, in effect the iron ring "shorts out" the field.

Consider a magnet in free space. Lines of flux run from one pole to the other via the space around the magnet. If you put a piece of iron near the magnet the flux finds it easier to flow in the iron so it takes a "short cut" along the iron rather than the original path.

I suppose it's similar to why there is no electric field in a conductor.

Thank you very much
 

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