What Do American Girls Look for in a Man?

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The discussion revolves around the question of what American women look for in men, highlighting the diversity of preferences and behaviors among women. It emphasizes that not all American women share the same values or customs, with some adhering to traditional views on relationships while others embrace more liberal lifestyles. The conversation touches on potential taboos, such as discussing sensitive topics like abortion or gender roles, which may not be well-received. Humor, respect, and good listening skills are identified as universally appreciated traits, while the importance of personal hygiene and physical appearance is also acknowledged. The dialogue humorously critiques the lack of female input in the discussion, suggesting that men are attempting to define women's preferences without sufficient understanding. Overall, the thread illustrates the complexity of dating norms and expectations in American culture, underscoring that individual preferences vary widely.
  • #51
What does "Made in Scotland, from girders" mean? 'Girders' as in steel bars?

Hygiene, yes, but I think that goes along with being kind. ;)
Looks don't make my list, but they would if I were interested in a different kind of relationship. Anywho, I think wolram could at least tell us if this lady is at PF. It wouldn't hurt just to know that much; There are lots of ladies here. And the suspense is killing me. :frown:
 
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  • #52
pattylou said:
"[sigh] Mike Myers has a lot to answer for."

LOL.

Well, we knew the stereotype before Myers ran with it. The Scots seem to be worse than the Brits, if that's any consolation. Fellow on the train from Kings Cross to Glasgow, talked with us the whole way - but I just kept wondering ... *how* did he lose so many teeth? Irn Bru?
Mmmm. You certainly all kept quiet about it until the film came out though, didn't you. I don't get why, since Austin Powers does seem to be the source of the teeth jibe, people didn't pick up on the fact that his teeth were bad by modern British standards . Not that I care, but I just always wanted to ask that question.
History done with, a little geography for you. Scotland is in Britain. Britain = Scotland, England & Wales. I think you meant to say "the Scots are worse than the English"?
But yeah... Irn Bru is pretty toxic. But my god, synthetic chemicals never tasted so good.
 
  • #53
brewnog said:
But yes, my legs are absolutely gorgeous...
Brews is killer in a pair of high heels.

Women with english accents are down right sexy as well...No Julia Child or Queen Mum comments please.
 
  • #54
brewnog said:
I'm not a Scot!

But if I was, I'd still be a Brit. That's all I was getting at. But yes, my legs are absolutely gorgeous, and I'm very partial to a spot of Irn Bru.


Oh! Sorry! carry on, carry on...
 
  • #55
brewnog said:
I'm not a Scot!

But if I was, I'd still be a Brit. That's all I was getting at. But yes, my legs are absolutely gorgeous, and I'm very partial to a spot of Irn Bru.
Oops! Yer too quick for me.

honestrosewater said:
What does "Made in Scotland, from girders" mean? 'Girders' as in steel bars?
The very same.

honestrosewater said:
Hygiene, yes, but I think that goes along with being kind. ;)
Looks don't make my list, but they would if I were interested in a different kind of relationship. Anywho, I think wolram could at least tell us if this lady is at PF. It wouldn't hurt just to know that much; There are lots of ladies here. And the suspense is killing me. :frown:
Agreed. Goddam you wolram, stop playing with us!
Oh, I just noticed your middle name is Rose. Hmmm hmm hmm HM!
 
  • #56
FredGarvin said:
Women with english accents are down right sexy as well...No Julia Child or Queen Mum comments please.
Agreed; I've always had a soft spot for Camilla Parker-Bowles..
 
  • #57
El Hombre Invisible said:
I think you meant to say "the Scots are worse than the English"?

Oh dear. I don't know who I have insulted (everyone? I was teasing!) ---- But yes, that was what I meant. Typing too fast. Sorry!

The tooth thing - well, the other side of the coin is that some Americans (especially where I live) bleach and bleach their teeth to a shade of brilliant white that has no place in a mouth. It's downright distracting. It's the dental version of steroids or any other over-the-top aesthetic change.

You're all lovely. That's what I meant to say. Lovely. (better?)
 
  • #58
arildno said:
Agreed; I've always had a soft spot for Camilla Parker-Bowles..
Damn. I knew I forgot one on that 'do not touch' list.
I laughed.
 
  • #59
Lisa! said:
I know but I am trying to help you if she's around here! :wink: o:)
Well she could be, and i think i need help,and lots and lots of it, you see i dont
think I am good enough for her, and i just told her all about me, and i told the
truth, i am waiting for a pm but it is hours since i sent mine.
 
  • #60
El Hombre Invisible said:
Mmmm. You certainly all kept quiet about it until the film came out though, didn't you. I don't get why..."
You're right. No one had a preconception about British teeth till Mike Meyers emphasized it, and went around pointing it out in the interviews for his Powers films. Now everyone thinks they noticed it themselves, but the fact is, Meyers is the only person in the world who watched all the old English films he says inspired Austin Powers.

It was the same with the first President Bush and Dana Carvey. No one even thought of Bush as a comic figure till Carvey came out with his surreal impersonation. Then everyone started imitating "Bush" but they were really imitating Carvey.
 
  • #61
wolram said:
Well she could be, and i think i need help,and lots and lots of it, you see i dont
think I am good enough for her, and i just told her all about me, and i told the
truth, i am waiting for a pm but it is hours since i sent mine.
I think you're in trouble, sir. You told us before you told her.

I suggest prayer.
 
  • #62
pattylou said:
Oh dear. I don't know who I have insulted (everyone? I was teasing!) ---- But yes, that was what I meant. Typing too fast. Sorry!

The tooth thing - well, the other side of the coin is that some Americans (especially where I live) bleach and bleach their teeth to a shade of brilliant white that has no place in a mouth. It's downright distracting. It's the dental version of steroids or any other over-the-top aesthetic change.

You're all lovely. That's what I meant to say. Lovely. (better?)
Ah, that Beverly Hills formula. No, no offense taken, although as a man born of a Scottish family but raised in England, it does seem I am dentally doomed.
 
  • #63
arildno said:
Agreed; I've always had a soft spot for Camilla Parker-Bowles..
What with zooby's stated intention to cross-breed with a human, and your warm feeling for Charlie's trusty steed, I'm guessing the Welsh are going to be the only acceptable Brit on this thread.
 
  • #64
wolram said:
Well she could be, and i think i need help,and lots and lots of it, you see i dont
think I am good enough for her, and i just told her all about me, and i told the
truth, i am waiting for a pm but it is hours since i sent mine.
Are you internet dating? What's a pm?
 
  • #65
honestrosewater said:
What does "Made in Scotland, from girders" mean? 'Girders' as in steel bars?

Hygiene, yes, but I think that goes along with being kind. ;)
Looks don't make my list, but they would if I were interested in a different kind of relationship. Anywho, I think wolram could at least tell us if this lady is at PF. It wouldn't hurt just to know that much; There are lots of ladies here. And the suspense is killing me. :frown:

I won't until she tells me i can tell, i don't know if the feelings are mutual yet
and the wait is killing me, i think i need intravenous rum and coke, why do
they leave you on tenterhooks.
 
  • #66
Correction:
zoobyshoe said:
No one even thought of Bush as a comic figure till...
... he opened his mouth. I didn't even know Dana Carvey (is that the other guy from Wayne's World) did a Bush impersonation, but I've never seen SNL (he's on SNL right?).
 
  • #67
zoobyshoe said:
You're right. No one had a preconception about British teeth till Mike Meyers emphasized it, and went around pointing it out in the interviews for his Powers films. Now everyone thinks they noticed it themselves, but the fact is, Meyers is the only person in the world who watched all the old English films he says inspired Austin Powers.

I disagree. I'm not discounting Myers impact on the stereotype, but the comparison wouldn't have been there to begin with if there wasn't a craze at the same time (or just before) for Americans to make their teeth more "perfect." Whiter, straighter, the whole thing. And I recall when we first saw "Austin Powers," my husband asked "What is with all the references to teeth?" ... And I was already familiar with the comparison. I don't know when the culture here shifted to tooth-fixation, but I think it was late eighties/early nineties - and Austin Powers was mid nineties.


zoobyshoe said:
It was the same with the first President Bush and Dana Carvey. No one even thought of Bush as a comic figure till Carvey came out with his surreal impersonation. Then everyone started imitating "Bush" but they were really imitating Carvey.

Nah. Sure, comics make caricatures that accentuate the humor in public figures. But come on. "A kinder, gentler nation." "A thousand points of light." Carvey was picking up on the obvious. Bush's statements are ridiculous, oversimplified, meaningless characterizations - Before Carvey even entered the picture.
 
  • #68
El Hombre Invisible said:
What with zooby's stated intention to cross-breed with a human, and your warm feeling for Charlie's trusty steed
Trusty STEED?? That valet, please give me a break..

Oh, of course, you meant Camilla, the handsome hag. Sorry about that.
 
  • #69
arildno said:
Trusty STEED?? That valet, please give me a break..

Oh, of course, you meant Camilla, the handsome hag. Sorry about that.
She's a fine beast, to be sure.
 
  • #70
El Hombre Invisible said:
Correction:

... he opened his mouth. I didn't even know Dana Carvey (is that the other guy from Wayne's World) did a Bush impersonation, but I've never seen SNL (he's on SNL right?).
Yeah, Carvey is the blonde guy of the "Wayne's" duo.
And I'm talking about the father of the current US president, not the clown currently known as President Bush.
 
  • #71
zoobyshoe said:
Yeah, Carvey is the blonde guy of the "Wayne's" duo.
And I'm talking about the father of the current US president, not the clown currently known as President Bush.
Ah, as indicated by the words "the first". Long day, bit scattered.
 
  • #72
El Hombre Invisible said:
Oh, I just noticed your middle name is Rose. Hmmm hmm hmm HM!
He was talking to me when he said that. Although, he did just threaten to give me a jolly good spanking.

hmmmm...
 
  • #73
El Hombre Invisible said:
Ah, as indicated by the words "the first". Long day, bit scattered.
Rub some of that heat lotion on the hunchback and settle back in the lounge chair for a rest. Don't think about Haitian coconuts.
 
  • #74
El Hombre Invisible said:
That's all well and good, but we want girls.
Unless you're under 18, that could be a problem.

Like Patty, I get rather ruffled when someone calls a grown woman a "girl." And when I'm looking for a man, that's what I look for, a man, not a boy. I look for maturity and honesty, someone who does what needs doing without requiring instruction, who has a sense of responsibilities and does them without whining. The laughter part is true, but to the extent that if you are compatible in terms of how you think and do things and approach life in general, your sense of humor should be very compatible too. If some guy is running around doing prat falls to try to make me laugh, he's really missed the mark, and I'm going to look at him like he's an idiot and walk away.

Wolram, despite all the advice of the misguided young men around here, I suspect American women are not very different from British women. Every woman is an individual, thus the most important thing is to listen and learn what the specific woman you wish to date considers humorous, considerate, expected, or taboo. If you hit upon a taboo accidentally, you'll know as long as you're paying attention - she'll get a bristley or agitated or tense; if you suddenly notice the conversation changes from jovial chit-chat to terse, one word answers and no laughter or smiling, you've touched a nerve. The best thing to do is quickly apologize and back away from the topic, far far far away, and never return to it.
 
  • #75
wolram said:
Well she could be, and i think i need help,and lots and lots of it, you see i dont
think I am good enough for her, and i just told her all about me, and i told the
truth, i am waiting for a pm but it is hours since i sent mine.
Come on!there's not any man who's good enough for any girl! :wink: how can I help you? o:)
 
  • #76
wolram said:
Well she could be, and i think i need help,and lots and lots of it, you see i dont
think I am good enough for her, and i just told her all about me, and i told the
truth, i am waiting for a pm but it is hours since i sent mine.
Oh, I'm anxious now. You'll both be lucky if she feels the same. :smile:
 
  • #77
honestrosewater said:
Oh, I'm anxious now. You'll both be lucky if she feels the same. :smile:
He's toast. He got his hopes all up before he even told her. He should pray, and we should pray for him.
 
  • #78
Lisa! said:
Come on!there's not any man who's good enough for any girl! :wink: how can I help you? o:)

well you could say nice things about me, its a long long long time since i did
anything bad, so you won't be telling fibs.
 
  • #79
wolram said:
well you could say nice things about me, its a long long long time since i did
anything bad, so you won't be telling fibs.
Your niceness is obvious to all, Wolram. I just fear you've let yourself fall too far before even telling her of your interest.
 
  • #80
wolram said:
Well she could be, and i think i need help,and lots and lots of it, you see i dont
think I am good enough for her, and i just told her all about me, and i told the
truth, i am waiting for a pm but it is hours since i sent mine.
Uh oh! She's on this forum, and you've told all of us your feelings before she's confirmed a mutual interest? We should promptly ask Evo to lock this thread up tight before you get in any more trouble! :biggrin: Some people like to keep at least certain parts of their private life private, and if she's one of them, it may not help your case to have everyone on the board inquiring about the nature of your relationship.

Folks, give poor Wolram a chance and cease inquiring about his woman friend before she gets scared and runs away. It would be very poor form for him to reveal who she is publicly if she does not wish to be announced in such a way.
 
  • #81
zoobyshoe said:
Your niceness is obvious to all, Wolram. I just fear you've let yourself fall too far before even telling her of your interest.

Stupid, stupid ,bone headed ,thick, did i mention stupid, fell free to add.
 
  • #82
Oh, yes, we should respect their privacy. I didn't expect him to tell us who she was, and he said he wouldn't anyway. I don't think he's done anything wrong.
 
  • #83
wolram said:
well you could say nice things about me, its a long long long time since i did
anything bad, so you won't be telling fibs.
Ok I'll do but you're lying about doing nothing bad recently but since we don't have Pinocchio as a smily,I feel free to tell any lie!and please answer my question:your threads about chitchat and good person test have no relation with impressing your girl, do they?


1.wolram is so handsome!I haven't seen any photo of him!
2.He loves traveling!
3.He never pick his nose in public!
4.he's the massanger of hope!
5.he has a daughter whose name is Kia

I'll tell you more! :wink:
 
  • #84
honestrosewater said:
Oh, yes, we should respect their privacy. I didn't expect him to tell us who she was, and he said he wouldn't anyway. I don't think he's done anything wrong.
Even if we don't know who she is, she knows who she is, and if she's reading along seeing all the things people are writing about her, especially if she's uncomfortable to the point she won't speak up to defend herself against inaccuracies, then it can be very embarrassing to be the subject of the conversation.

Maybe I'm still old-fashioned about these things, but I, and I expect some others, consider a public announcement of one's relationship status to be a sign of a rather strong committment. It's something you do after you get to know someone and have dated for a bit and are ready to announce that it is now appropriate to invite them as a couple to gatherings and such. It comes somewhere after dating and before engagement.

It also puts the woman in question in a rather awkward position. There is now no way to turn down Wolram without causing him public embarrassment, so if she is not interested, does she just play along for a while, and possibly hurt him further by letting him think she's interested long enough to allow him to save face amidst everyone here, or does she turn him down and leave the poor fellow hanging his head in shame. I can only hope for both their sake that there is a mutual interest and she is not the sort of person who would be embarrassed by all this attention. If not, I'll have the tissue box ready for Wolram.
 
  • #85
Moonbear said:
It also puts the woman in question in a rather awkward position. There is now no way to turn down Wolram without causing him public embarrassment, so if she is not interested, does she just play along for a while, and possibly hurt him further by letting him think she's interested long enough to allow him to save face amidst everyone here, or does she turn him down and leave the poor fellow hanging his head in shame. I can only hope for both their sake that there is a mutual interest and she is not the sort of person who would be embarrassed by all this attention. If not, I'll have the tissue box ready for Wolram.


It's you, isn't it!

:biggrin:















Urrrm, I'll get my coat...[/size]
 
  • #86
Moonbear said:
Wolram, despite all the advice of the misguided young men around here, I suspect American women are not very different from British women. Every woman is an individual, thus the most important thing is to listen and learn what the specific woman you wish to date considers humorous, considerate, expected, or taboo. If you hit upon a taboo accidentally, you'll know as long as you're paying attention - she'll get a bristley or agitated or tense; if you suddenly notice the conversation changes from jovial chit-chat to terse, one word answers and no laughter or smiling, you've touched a nerve. The best thing to do is quickly apologize and back away from the topic, far far far away, and never return to it
I would venture that women (and men, obviously with some differences) are much the same the world over - at least its been my experience. Most people I know wish to be treated with respect. Humor in a relationhsip is important, and similarities in what both like or dislike helps. Honesty and openness are also key to a lasting and meaningful relationship.

Likely the recipient of the email (in the US) is working, so a reply, if forthcoming, would be this evening at the earliest (morning in UK). Perhaps the recipient will need to time to think of a response.

Moonbear said:
Maybe I'm still old-fashioned about these things, but I, and I expect some others, consider a public announcement of one's relationship status to be a sign of a rather strong committment. It's something you do after you get to know someone and have dated for a bit and are ready to announce that it is now appropriate to invite them as a couple to gatherings and such. It comes somewhere after dating and before engagement.
Not old fashioned - just appropriate. There is the matter of discretion.
 
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  • #87
Moonbear said:
Even if we don't know who she is, she knows who she is, and if she's reading along seeing all the things people are writing about her, especially if she's uncomfortable to the point she won't speak up to defend herself against inaccuracies, then it can be very embarrassing to be the subject of the conversation.

Maybe I'm still old-fashioned about these things, but I, and I expect some others, consider a public announcement of one's relationship status to be a sign of a rather strong committment. It's something you do after you get to know someone and have dated for a bit and are ready to announce that it is now appropriate to invite them as a couple to gatherings and such. It comes somewhere after dating and before engagement.

It also puts the woman in question in a rather awkward position. There is now no way to turn down Wolram without causing him public embarrassment, so if she is not interested, does she just play along for a while, and possibly hurt him further by letting him think she's interested long enough to allow him to save face amidst everyone here, or does she turn him down and leave the poor fellow hanging his head in shame. I can only hope for both their sake that there is a mutual interest and she is not the sort of person who would be embarrassed by all this attention. If not, I'll have the tissue box ready for Wolram.
Yes, I understand what you're saying, but I don't see how it applies here. All wolram said is that he likes her. No one else needs to ever even know who she is or anything more about it. But, yes, it feels awkward now, and I'd rather just leave it alone. Sorry if I made anyone feel uncomfortable.
 
  • #88
wolram said:
Stupid, stupid ,bone headed ,thick, did i mention stupid, fell free to add.
Yes, it's very risky to let yourself fall head over heals until you know the other party is going to participate. Not that I haven't been in your shoes once or twice. Maybe, actually, five or six, times. Or more. Maybe a lot more. Maybe that's the way I always react, but that doesn't mean you should.
 
  • #89
I'm sure who ever it is, will remain true to her own nature, and keep it between the two of them.
I see the ladies here as honest and sincere. I wish you well Wolram, no matter what the out come.
Zooby said it best
Not that I haven't been in your shoes once or twice
 
  • #90
brewnog said:
It's you, isn't it!
:smile: No, but you may recall it was me with someone else and it ended somewhat badly here. That's probably why I'm more sensitive to it than others, because I was the one who felt cornered at one time.

If she's interested and simply wishes to stay anonymous, all will be okay (a gentleman never tells :wink:).
 
  • #91
Moonbear said:
:smile: No, but you may recall it was me with someone else and it ended somewhat badly here. That's probably why I'm more sensitive to it than others, because I was the one who felt cornered at one time.

If she's interested and simply wishes to stay anonymous, all will be okay (a gentleman never tells :wink:).

Nah, I don't recall that, perhaps it was before my time. These things usually go straight over my head, but that's probably because people generally know better than to tell me those kind of things.

So, anyway, I get the feeling that this thread needs to be subtly dragged off topic.

Does anyone like olives? :smile:
 
  • #92
honestrosewater said:
He was talking to me when he said that. Although, he did just threaten to give me a jolly good spanking.

hmmmm...
Ha! Strike two for me I guess. I clearly got the wrong end of a very long stick.
 
  • #93
zoobyshoe said:
Rub some of that heat lotion on the hunchback and settle back in the lounge chair for a rest. Don't think about Haitian coconuts.
To someone unaccustomed to our previous dialogue, that would sound very weird indeed.
 
  • #94
brewnog said:
So, anyway, I get the feeling that this thread needs to be subtly dragged off topic.

Does anyone like olives? :smile:

Olives are good! But I only like the green ones and the Kalamata olives. None of those black ones for me. And they are, of course, best when dipped in just the right combination of gin and vermouth. :approve:
 
  • #95
Moonbear said:
Unless you're under 18, that could be a problem.

Like Patty, I get rather ruffled when someone calls a grown woman a "girl." And when I'm looking for a man, that's what I look for, a man, not a boy.
Forgive us (that's me, wolram, and 95% of the English speaking population) for using the term too loosely for you. Given the wide usage from both sides of the gender divide ("I'm going out with my girlfriends"), we misguided young men did not guess how much we were offending you.
 
  • #96
Woah! Hang on... Call me slow, but does 'pm' mean 'private message'? As in... the private message facility of PF forum? That can't be what wolram meant, surely.
 
  • #97
El Hombre Invisible said:
Woah! Hang on... Call me slow, but does 'pm' mean 'private message'? As in... the private message facility of PF forum? That can't be what wolram meant, surely.


Unless he was waiting for Tony Blair to come knocking...
 
  • #98
brewnog said:
Unless he was waiting for Tony Blair to come knocking...
:smile: :smile: :smile: Now that would give a whole different meaning here. :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
  • #99
El Hombre Invisible said:
To someone unaccustomed to our previous dialogue, that would sound very weird indeed.
I don't follow...?
 
  • #100
Is that right? That can't be right? IS THAT RIGHT?!? There are... no words...
 
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