What Does Change in Gradient Mean for Road Design?

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The discussion focuses on the analysis of gradients in road design, specifically comparing two lines: Line AB with a gradient of 1 in 169 and Line BC with a gradient of 1 in 410. The critical threshold for redesign is a change in gradient exceeding 1 in 500. The calculations reveal that the change in gradient between Lines AB and BC is 1 in 289, which exceeds the threshold, confirming that redesign is necessary. Participants clarify the interpretation of the question and the method for calculating the change in gradient.

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Hi all

I was hoping someone could help solve a gradient problem, I am more concerned about understanding what the question is asking me.


Homework Statement



I have two straight lines which represents the vertical profile of a road.

Line AB has a gradient of 1 in 169 (for every 1 unit in the Y axis, you move 169 units in the X axis)

Line BC has a gradient of 1 in 410 (for every 1 unit in the Y axis, you move 410 units in the X axis)

The question is, if the Change In Gradient between the two lines exceeds 1 in 500 then the road must be re-designed.

A. Do the gradients of lines AB & BC exceed 1 in 500 – YES / NO.
B. What is the change in gradient between Lines AB & BC.


There are two parts of the question I am struggling to understand.
• The first bit is understanding the change in statement.
• The second bit is if the change in gradient is 1 in 600 for example then I would say that this is a shallower gradient and has not exceeded the 1 in 500 gradient threshold. If the change in gradient was 1 in 150 for example then this is a steeper gradient and has exceeded the 1 in 500 gradient threshold.

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From the statement “Change in” I would subtract the gradients of the two lines. So my first step would be:-

1/169 – 1/410 = 410/69290 – 169/69290 (I found a common denominator)

410/69290 – 169/69290 = 241/69290 (subtracted 410 – 169)

241/69290 = 1/ 287.5104 (rounded to 1 in 289)

Answer To Part A = YES the gradients has exceeded 1 in 500
Answer To Part B = The change in gradient is 1 in 289.

Is my thinking correct or have I got it wrong.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I have attached a sketch of the problem.

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I believe you have the right idea. However, for part A of the question I am not sure if they are asking you to determine if the gradient of AB and BC combined (AC) would 1/500 or if they are considering the individual lines. Either way, I believe you have to right answer.
 

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