What does it mean to move a differential?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of moving differentials in calculus, particularly in the context of Leibniz's notation and its implications. Participants explore the meaning behind manipulating differentials in equations like dy/dx = f'(x) and whether this represents a rigorous mathematical operation or a shorthand notation. The scope includes theoretical understanding and clarification of notation in single-variable and multi-variable calculus.

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  • Some participants suggest that moving dx to the other side of dy/dx = f'(x) is a form of shorthand notation, interpreting dy as a small change in y and dx as a small change in x.
  • One participant explains that the differential df of a function is defined in terms of an independent variable τ, leading to a discussion about the independence of dx from x.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the notation used in single-variable calculus is a simplified version of the more rigorous approach discussed in earlier posts.
  • There is a request for clarification on applying these concepts specifically to single-variable calculus, indicating some participants may not be familiar with multi-variable calculus.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the rigor of the proofs and the validity of the manipulations involved in moving differentials.

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Participants generally agree that moving differentials involves some level of shorthand notation, but there is no consensus on the rigor of this approach or the implications of treating dx as an independent variable. Multiple competing views on the interpretation of differentials and their application remain present.

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Limitations include the dependence on definitions of differentials and the potential confusion arising from the use of artificial variables like τ. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in rigorously proving the manipulation of differentials.

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This discussion may be useful for students and educators in calculus, particularly those interested in the foundations of differential notation and its applications in both single-variable and multi-variable contexts.

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Not a homework question, I'm just curious, I know this has been asked a few times, but what exactly is happening when you move dx over to the other side of dy/dx=f'(x), is it like the point slope form ∆y=m∆x, or is it applying the differential to both sides, I've always been told a rigorous proof was necessary to show you could "multiply by dx", could someone possibly show me a proof of it, or even just explain why it works?
 
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The way i ve been taught Leibniz's notation is by the definition of the differential of a function.

The differential df of a function f, is the function ##df(\tau,x)=f'(x)\tau## where ##\tau## is a variable independent of the variable x. However where things "go messy" with the notation is on the next step:

Consider the differential di of the identity function i(x)=x. It will be ##di(\tau,x)=i'(x)\tau=\tau## so if we allow the notation ##di(\tau,x)=dx(\tau,x)## (because i(x)=x) we end up with ##dx(\tau,x)=\tau## or abbreviated ##dx=\tau##. It is important to notice that ##dx## simply stands for the differential of the identity function.

So going back to ##df(\tau,x)=f'(x)\tau## and using the fact that ##dx=\tau## we end up with ##df(\tau,x)=f'(x)dx(\tau,x)## or in compact notation ##df=f'dx##. Dont forget that on this last equation on the RHS we have an ordinary multiplication of two functions (the function f' and the function dx) so we can write it as ##\frac{df}{dx}=f'##.

Just to clear a thing, dx is independent of x, it is essentially the independent variable ##\tau##.
 
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Could you possibly show it in single variable, I just took the calc BC test and don't really know much about multi-variable calculus yet.
 
Well it is essentially one variable calculus, ##\tau## is some sort of "artificial" variable to do the trick, we differentiate only with respect to x.
 
What you are used to thinking of as single variable calculus is "really" a shorthand way of doing the thing Delta2 did in post #3.
You are not normally taught that stuff at your level because you are not used to thinking like that yet, so you get taught the shortcuts and rules without rigor.
 
Well, hopefully I get a 4 or 5 on my ap test, I actually did it instead of the ab test I was supposed to take, I really struggled with series though. Hopefully I can skip calc 2 in college. Multivariable sounds fun.
 

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