What does the integral along a path of x+i diverge to?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of integrals involving complex numbers, specifically the limit of the expression \(x+i\) as \(x\) approaches infinity and the evaluation of the integral \(\int^\infty_0 (x+i)dx\). Participants explore the implications of working within different mathematical frameworks, such as extended real numbers and complex analysis.

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  • Participants discuss the limit of \(x+i\) as \(x\) approaches infinity and question how this limit behaves in various mathematical contexts. There is also inquiry into the interpretation of integrals involving complex numbers, particularly regarding the substitution of variables and the impact on integration limits.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of limits and integrals in complex analysis. Some have clarified aspects of the problem, while others are still grappling with the implications of their approaches and the definitions of paths in integration.

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Participants note the importance of specifying paths in integrals involving complex numbers and highlight that the original integral may be improper, which could influence the interpretation of limits and bounds.

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[tex]\lim_{x\to\infty}(x+i)=?[/tex]

What does this diverge to? Intuitively i would have thought (realinfinity + i).

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Which brings the other question:

[tex]\int^\infty_0}(x+i)dx=?[/tex]

How should i interpret this integral considering x is a real number? And what does it diverge to?
 
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It depends on what points you have placed at infinity.

For example, if you were working in [itex]\bar{\mathbb{R}}^2[/itex], where [itex]\bar{\mathbb{R}}[/itex] is the extended real numbers, then every number is of the form a + bi, where a and b are any extended real number. (even an infinite one!) And then, you could show

[tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty} x + i = +\infty + i[/tex]

(even if x is not restricted to the reals!)


Actually, if you are using any extension of the complexes such that + is continuous at [itex](\infty, i)[/itex] (whatever [itex]\infty[/itex] happens to mean in this context), then it would be true that your limit converges to [itex]\infty + i[/itex]. But it might happen (as it does on the complex projective line and the real projective plane) that [itex]\infty + i = \infty[/itex]. (for the appropriate meaning of [itex]\infty[/itex])
 
Great answer :). That did actually clarify some things.

Now here's the real context of the problem. I'm trying to simplify the following integral. I'm still confused as to which of those systems i should use for this one:

[tex]\int^\infty_{-\infty}\left(e^{-\alpha(x-\frac{i}{2\alpha}(k_0-k))^2\right)dx}[/tex]

I can simplify it by substituting [tex]y=x-\frac{i}{2\alpha}(k_0-k)[/tex]. However in the model solutions for this problem, the integral limits do not change after the substitution, even though I'm subtracting a complex number from the real number x. Any reason why the limits should still be INFINITY and -INFINITY after the substititution? (and not [tex]y=\infty-\frac{i}{2\alpha}(k_0-k)[/tex] and [tex]y=-\infty-\frac{i}{2\alpha}(k_0-k)[/tex]
 
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Integrals1 don't happen between limits: they happen along paths.

In the simple world of the reals, any path is (essentially) determined by its endpoints. So, we can get away with defining a definite integral in such a fashion.

But for what you're doing, you really ought to be specifying the path. Your original integral really ought to be specified as being integrated over the path

x = t ([itex]t \in \mathbb{R}[/itex])​

and your second integral as being over the path

y = t - (i / 2a)(k0 - k) ([itex]t \in \mathbb{R}[/itex]).​

However, I have seen people use notation similar to what you want to use as shorthand for denoting such vertical or horizontal lines.


The other thing to note is that (I think), this is an improper integral, which is defined in terms of a limit of things with bounded domain. On each of those bounded things, you don't have any of the problems you've been having!



1: Well, this type of integral, anyways.
 

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