What does this order symbol mean?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning of the order symbol, specifically the notation \mathcal{O}, in mathematical and physical contexts. Participants explore its implications in terms of order of magnitude and its application in various scenarios, including proton decay.

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  • Some participants explain that the symbol \mathcal{O} denotes "order" as in "order of magnitude," indicating a range of values for a quantity.
  • One participant elaborates that \mathcal{O}(1) signifies that a quantity is between 0.1 and 10, while \mathcal{O}(\lambda^n) suggests that a variable is of the same order of size as a parameter raised to a power.
  • Another participant provides an example, stating that saying the lifetime of a proton is "O(10^32) years" implies it is greater than 10^31 years but less than 10^33 years.
  • A participant shares a link to Wikipedia for further reference on Big O notation.
  • One participant expresses gratitude and inquires about the relationship between the order symbol and other similar symbols in TeX bitmap names.

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Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the order symbol in the context of order of magnitude, but there is no consensus on the complexity of its mathematical definition or its broader implications.

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Some participants note that the general mathematical definition of the order symbol can be complicated, indicating potential limitations in understanding its full scope.

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It means "Order" as in "order of magnitude". \mathcal{O}(1), when referring to some quantity, means that the order of magnitude of the quantity is on the order of the number 1 - it's larger than 0.1 and less than 10. Typically we take order of things as powers of some number.

e.g. x \sim \mathcal{O}(\lambda^n) means the variable x is of the same order of size as the parameter \lambda to the nth power - it's between \lambda^{n-1} and \lambda^{n+1} in size.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
 
That is "on the order of". Its most general mathematics definition can be complicated but in this application saying "O(1)" really means "a few": less than 10 but more than 0.1. Saying that the lifetime of a proton is "O(1032) years" means that the lifetime of a proton is certainly greater than 1031 years but less than 1033 years.
 
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Thank you oh so very very much. I've noticed that there are letters that take a similar tex bitmap name; are they related?
 

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