News What Exactly Is Happening In the Arab/Persian World?

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Protests in Egypt have escalated into violence, with reports of protesters being beaten and arrested, including journalists. The unrest is characterized as significant but not an outright uprising, contrasting with the recent events in Tunisia. Rumors suggest that President Mubarak's family may have fled the country, raising concerns about potential instability. As protests continue, there are fears that the situation could worsen, particularly with a planned massive demonstration. The emergence of a leaderless youth movement is seen as a critical factor in challenging Mubarak's long-standing regime.
  • #901
Astronuc said:
Libya protests spread as barrier of fear crumbles
The son of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi tried to intimidate Libyans Sunday, warning in a TV speech of civil war and foreign plots. But Libya's wave of democracy protests is strengthening as protesters ignore violence that has claimed more than 200 lives.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...a-protests-spread-as-barrier-of-fear-crumbles

Clinton: Gadhafi must stop bloodshed
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110221/ap_on_re_us/us_us_libya


Like Gadhafi is going to listen and restrain himself?

How about a no fly zone? Prevent the helicopters from firing on civilians.

Who will enforce it? It would be an act of war... even if it would be the right thing to do. Remember what we let happen that last time Algerians rose up? What... 100K people dead?

Some things we can help create, such as Libya, but we can't defuse them. BLOWBACK, although at least Libya isn't the USA's...
 
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  • #902
Ben Wedemen is INSIDE Libya.
 
  • #903
Greg Bernhardt said:
he looks like he's in a wax museum

Astronuc said:
Looks tired and pissed.

nismaratwork said:
Sure he's tired, it's hard work having to maintain that kind of harem, throwing wild parties, AND oppressing a people!


Sorry guys, this is not the time or place, but I just can’t help it: :smile:
 
  • #904
nismaratwork said:
Ben Wedemen is INSIDE Libya.

WOW! :bugeye:
 
  • #905
nismaratwork said:
Who will enforce it? It would be an act of war... even if it would be the right thing to do. Remember what we let happen that last time Algerians rose up? What... 100K people dead?

Some things we can help create, such as Libya, but we can't defuse them. BLOWBACK, although at least Libya isn't the USA's...

Again, watch the Russians very closely.
 
  • #906
WhoWee said:
Again, watch the Russians very closely.

Why? They don't have the money or training to launch anything in northern Africa.
 
  • #907
Ghaddafi just made an appearance, claiming to still be in Libya, and, "not in France."
 
  • #908
turbo-1 said:
Just a correction - the fighters were French-built Mirages, not MIGs.

http://gizmodo.com/#!5766477/libyan...-escape-to-malta-refusing-to-bomb-protesters"

nismaratwork said:
Still, the Ghaddafis must be fuming at the loss of the jets and armaments.

Probably an understatement... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage_F1#Current_operators"... Gaddafi wax is probably on fire...

nismaratwork said:
Whoops! That's not a small miss...

Agree... imagine this man’s face if 'his' fighter jets are used in a "bombing genocide" by a crazy dictator...

zy_meeting_in_Toulouse_for_the_2007_French_presidential_election_0299_2007-04-12_cropped_further.jpg
 
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  • #909
nismaratwork said:
Why? They don't have the money or training to launch anything in northern Africa.

They wouldn't need much money or prep to secure Libya.
 
  • #910
nismaratwork said:
Ghaddafi just made an appearance, claiming to still be in Libya, and, "not in France."

Okay, this man has not gone to Venezuela, he has gone completely crazy.

2eg60i8.jpg


Umbrella against bombs?
 
  • #911
DevilsAvocado said:
Umbrella against bombs?

He's gone Michael Jackson!

michael-jackson-with-umbrella.jpe
 
  • #912
DevilsAvocado said:
http://gizmodo.com/#!5766477/libyan...-escape-to-malta-refusing-to-bomb-protesters"



Probably an understatement... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage_F1#Current_operators"... Gaddafi wax is probably on fire...



Agree... imagine this man’s face if 'his' fighter jets are used in a "bombing genocide" by a crazy dictator...

zy_meeting_in_Toulouse_for_the_2007_French_presidential_election_0299_2007-04-12_cropped_further.jpg

HA! I was talking about that on the phone a while ago. I'm sure France is THRILLED those colonels defected, but military aircraft were used in Tripoli... Here's to hoping they're not ours. :redface:

@Greg: I think that should be added to the DSM-V as a criteria for an emergent delusional disorder:NOS. :biggrin:

Wait... under those robes and the pancake makeup... Ghaddaffi... SETEC ASTRONOMY...

:

MJ IS GHADDAFI! Michael Jackson must have been Ghaddafi's day job when he's not being the godfather of Libya... he's the godfather of POP!

Oh wait... that doesn't work. Nope, I guess they both just had fair skin... :rolleyes:
 
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  • #913
Greg Bernhardt said:
He's gone Michael Jackson!

michael-jackson-with-umbrella.jpe

:biggrin::smile::biggrin:

Thriller!
 
  • #914
Wait... if that umbrella WAS bullet resistant fabric... that wouldn't be a bad idea. Just goes to show that many problems in life are solved from the barrel of a long rifle, and the people who most deserve the payload know it.

Frankly, I'm amazed that one of his own people hasn't killed him yet.
 
  • #915
nismaratwork said:
MJ IS GHADDAFI! Michael Jackson must have been Ghaddafi's day job when he's not being the godfather of Libya... he's the godfather of POP!

Thriller10
 
  • #916
NOTE: Lacy33... I'm joking about MJ, Greg MADE me do this... he has powers. :blushing:

@DA: I love your emoticons... "Where does he get those wonderful TOYS?!" (The Joker)
 
  • #917
nismaratwork said:
Frankly, I'm amazed that one of his own people hasn't killed him yet.

Thriller: revised sequel(don’t tell anyone...:smile:)
 
  • #918
Oh lord... refugees in London are descibing the scene in Triploli...

They're using ARTILLARY against civilians. I'm so angry I can barrely type.

@DA I still find that funny.
 
  • #919
nismaratwork said:
They're using ARTILLARY against civilians. I'm so angry I can barrely type.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :cry::mad::cry::mad::cry::mad::cry::mad:
 
  • #920
nismaratwork said:
Oh lord... refugees in London are descibing the scene in Triploli...

They're using ARTILLARY against civilians. I'm so angry I can barrely type.

Ghaddafi is digging his own grave. It won't go well for him when they get to him.
 
  • #921
nismaratwork said:
MJ IS GHADDAFI!

Muammar+Gaddafi+Meets+PM+Berlusconi+Italian+xNydEleqq0Il.jpg
http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/staytuned/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/michael-jackson1.jpg

What are you talking about? o:)
 
  • #922
I think it's time to asess where this is going, beyond the immidiate. Libya is probably lost, even to itself... what is this message going to say to the region?
 
  • #923
AP said:
Deep cracks opened in Moammar Gadhafi's regime Monday, with Libyan government officials at home and abroad resigning, air force pilots defecting and a bloody crackdown on protest in the capital of Tripoli, where cars and buildings were burned. World leaders were outraged at the "vicious forms of repression" used against the demonstrators.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7439624.html

I would hope some elements of the military move to stop those firing at civilians.
 
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  • #924
Borg said:
Ghaddafi is digging his own grave. It won't go well for him when they get to him.

He's already a dead man walking, agreed, but it may be that Libya is going to itself in civil war, as advertised. Ghaddafi... the ultimate "spoiler".

@Gokul: Now that is truly eerie. Like a couple of thin, pale Idi Amins.
 
  • #925
Astronuc said:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7439624.html

I would hope some elements of the military move to stop those firing at civilians.

It seems that the mercenaries are being... mercenary... I'm not sure that a military without command and control is going to survive that.
 
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  • #926
BEN WEDEMEN: Live on CNN as of now.

He's saying the border is utterly unguarded. The internet is down, local calls can be made but none beyond Libya. He's still in Eastern Libya however...

They believe that the military has joined them, but that they expect possible use of military aircraft against the eastern portion as well.

Does anyone know what regional C&C/SAM/AA is in Libya?
 
  • #927
Astronuc said:
I would hope some elements of the military move to stop those firing at civilians.

Agree :frown:
 
  • #928
If the military is shelling it's own people, is there a point where outside forces move into help?
 
  • #929
DevilsAvocado said:
Agree :frown:

This is the question: CAN they? They're being faced with sub-saharan African mercenaries (speaking French according to a report by Ben Wedemen), and airstrikes. My question, if the they wanted to, can do they have meaningful AA capability and any semblance of command and control left? It sounds chaotic, and that makes organized defense impossible.


Remember we know now that this man was willing to BOMB his second largest cty...


This is going to be ugly... so ugly. They seem to want Libya, or destroy it...
 
  • #930
Greg Bernhardt said:
If the military is shelling it's own people, is there a point where outside forces move into help?

The only outside forces involved now are mercenaries. Remember, that this is also a country that fosters jihaadi ideology in the worst way... who takes power here is going to be ugly no matter what.

Without Ghaddafi... there is no Libya as we know it, because he seems willing to destroy the infrastructure and return the country to a basic state.
 

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