What factors affect the rotating speed of a motor?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the factors affecting the rotating speed of motors, particularly focusing on the equation Ns = 120f/p, which relates motor speed to frequency and the number of poles. Participants explore the discrepancies between theoretical calculations and practical motor speeds, especially in the context of different motor types.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation for motor speed and questions its applicability, noting that practical examples, like woodworking routers, exceed the calculated speeds.
  • Another participant clarifies that the equation is primarily applicable to AC induction motors and some synchronous motors, while other types, such as universal motors and DC brush commutated motors, do not follow this equation.
  • A participant mentions that universal motors are used in tools that operate at speeds greater than 3600 rpm, suggesting a distinction between motor types.
  • It is noted that other factors, such as frequency converters and mechanical systems like gears and pulleys, can also influence motor speed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the speed equation to various motor types, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist regarding motor speed characteristics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the relationship between motor types and their operational speeds, as well as the dependence on specific definitions and contexts for different motors.

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Individuals interested in marine engineering, electrical engineering, or those studying motor dynamics may find this discussion relevant.

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This is my first post, so I'll give a bit of an intro. I am an marine engineering cadet at mass maritime academy in my junior yet. I took physics II last semester and this semester I am taking electrical machines.

In class today we were talking about how fast motors can rotate and came up with this equation:

Ns = 120f/p Ns being the speed of the motor, f being the frequency and p being the number of poles.

with this equation using 60hz and a 2 pole motor it says that a motor will only rotate at 3600 rpm's.

I know this isn't true because wood working routers rotate well over 15,000 rpm.

I asked my Proff how this worked and was told to try and find an answer for next class.

I haven't been able to find anything searching google about it. Does anybody know how this works?


Thanks Cooper
 
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Different types of motors have different speed and torque characteristics.
The equation applies to AC induction motors, which run asynchronously at just under that suggested. It also applies to some synchronous motors.
Universal motors, DC brush commutated motors and many others do not obey the equation.
 
So the speed of an induction motor is dependent on the frequency of the power going to it?

And these tools that require speeds greater then 3600 rpm use a universal motor?

this is making more sense, thanks.
 
Or a frequency converter. Or gears and pulleys. It all depends on the system being powered.
 

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