What Fills the Space Between the Nucleus and Electron Shells in an Atom?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the composition of the space between an atom's nucleus and its electron shells, exploring various models and analogies used to describe atomic structure. The scope includes conceptual clarifications and critiques of traditional models.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question what fills the space between the nucleus and electron shells in an atom.
  • One participant asserts that there is no space between the nucleus and electron shells, suggesting that the electron shells extend throughout the entire volume of the atom, including the nucleus.
  • Another participant challenges the accuracy of the popular model that depicts a small nucleus with distant electron shells, expressing frustration over its continued use in education.
  • A historical reference is made to the Bohr Model of the atom, which is acknowledged as incorrect but still considered useful for teaching basic concepts.
  • One participant reiterates the analogy of the nucleus being the size of a basketball, stating that electrons would occupy the entire stadium rather than being limited to a specific distance from the nucleus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the accuracy of traditional atomic models, with some advocating for a more nuanced understanding of atomic structure. No consensus is reached on the nature of the space between the nucleus and electron shells.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the traditional models and the assumptions underlying various analogies, but these remain unresolved.

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The Space Between the Nucleus and Electron Shells?
Summary: The Space Between the Nucleus and Electron Shells?

What composes the space between an atom's nucleus and its electron shells?
 
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There is no space in between. The electron shells are spread over the whole size of the atom - including the volume of the nucleus.
 
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So the popular model of a tiny nucleus and way out there is the first electron shell is totally inaccurate? Why would such a fabrication still be taught? I remember the analogy as this: if the nucleus was the size of a basketball the electrons would be whizzing around the top rows of a major football stadium. It's all garbage?
 
The Bohr Model of the atom from 1913 is the source. It is wrong, but viewed handy for teaching very elementary science. I learned it in high school, long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model
 
Sanborn Chase said:
if the nucleus was the size of a basketball the electrons would be whizzing around the top rows of a major football stadium
They are in the whole stadium in that analogy.
 

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