What Forces Balance a Knot Pulled by Three Different Ropes?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force required to maintain equilibrium in a knot pulled by three ropes, with two known forces of 3.0 units and 5.0 units at an angle of 120 degrees apart. The correct approach involves breaking the forces into their X and Y components rather than assuming a right triangle configuration. The resultant force can be determined using the law of cosines and vector addition principles, leading to the conclusion that the third rope must exert a force of approximately 4.0 units in a specific direction to balance the knot.

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The figure shows three ropes tied together in a knot. One of your friends pulls on a rope with 3.0 units of force and another pulls on a second rope with 5.0 units of force. These two ropes are being pulled 120 degrees apart.


How hard must you pull on the third rope to keep the knot from moving?

In what direction must you pull on the third rope to keep the knot from moving?


I assumed the vectors formed a right triangle and the 5.0 force was the hypotenuse, so the third rope would require 4.0 units of force.
 
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Why did you assume the vectors formed a right triangle? They're 90 degrees apart.
Break up the vectors into X & Y components first.
 
mjunderhill said:
The figure shows three ropes tied together in a knot. One of your friends pulls on a rope with 3.0 units of force and another pulls on a second rope with 5.0 units of force. These two ropes are being pulled 120 degrees apart.How hard must you pull on the third rope to keep the knot from moving?

In what direction must you pull on the third rope to keep the knot from moving?I assumed the vectors formed a right triangle and the 5.0 force was the hypotenuse, so the third rope would require 4.0 units of force.
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Since angle between the ropes is 120o, vectors do not form a right triangle.
If two vectors and angle between them are given, what is the relevant equation to find the magnitude and direction of the resultant vector?
 

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