How Do You Calculate Tension in a Rope Pulling a Box with Friction and an Angle?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a rope pulling a box on a level surface, considering friction and an angle of application. The problem involves a box with a specified mass and a coefficient of kinetic friction, requiring an understanding of forces and motion to maintain constant velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of equations related to the forces acting on the box, including tension and friction. Some express confusion about the cancellation of variables and the correct application of trigonometric functions in their equations. Questions arise regarding alternative methods to approach the problem.

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There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with some participants offering guidance on maintaining algebraic methods throughout the problem-solving process. Multiple interpretations of the equations are being explored, particularly concerning the direction of forces and the signs used in the equations.

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Participants note potential errors in the initial setup of equations, specifically regarding the treatment of friction and tension forces. There is an acknowledgment of the need for careful handling of signs in the equations, but no resolution has been reached.

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1. Homework Statement

You are pulling a 39kg box on a level floor by a rope attached to the box. The rope makes an angle of 21 degrees with the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic frictions between the box and the floor is 0.23. Calculate the magnitude of the tension in the rope needed to keep the box moving at a constant velocity?

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fnet=ma

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I have pictures of my attempted solution attached. I stopped solving it because I realized that my Ft variables would cancel out and I would have nothing to solve for. Also, what I did makes no sense but I was trying to solve it like you solve other forces problems where you find set up your equations and find a variable present in each equation and set those equations equal to each other. I don't think that works here. My steps are numbered. The attached picture is the first one and the picture at the top is the second one.
 

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I agree with your starting equation for the vertical sum of forces but I think you have a sine error in the horizontal equation. You appear to have friction acting in the same direction as the tension force (eg both positive).
 
CWatters said:
I agree with your starting equation for the vertical sum of forces but I think you have a sine error in the horizontal equation. You appear to have friction acting in the same direction as the tension force (eg both positive).
Is there another way to solve this problem?
 
I think you are on the right track. I don't think FT will cancel.

PS: it's midnight where I live so I'm off to bed.
 
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Sorry yes I meant sign not sine.
 

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