What happens to absorbed colors in colored substances?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of color in substances, specifically focusing on what happens to absorbed light waves in colored materials. It explores theoretical and conceptual aspects of light absorption, re-emission, and the physical properties of solids.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that substances appear colored because they absorb all colors except for the color they reflect, with red substances absorbing all colors but reflecting red.
  • One participant suggests that absorbed light can cause increased lattice vibrations in solids, which is perceived as heat, explaining why materials heat up when exposed to light.
  • Another viewpoint indicates that absorbed light is converted to thermal energy and may be re-radiated at a lower frequency or lost as heat through convection or conduction.
  • There is mention of wavelength-dependent scattering as a factor in color perception, particularly in the presence of pigments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the fate of absorbed light in colored substances, with no consensus reached on the specifics of re-emission or the role of thermal energy.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of solid-state physics, including the distinction between isolated atoms and collective properties of solids, which may influence how absorbed light is processed.

Karagoz
They say that substances have color because when light waves of all colors hit the substance, the atoms do absorb all the colors, except those that is its color.

Red substance is red because it absorbs all the color waves, but reflects the red waves.

But all the color waves the red substance absorbs, what happens to them? The atoms of the substance re-emit these waves right away at the same frequency? Or they emit at other frequency?
 
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Karagoz said:
They say that substances have color because when light waves of all colors hit the substance, the atoms do absorb all the colors, except those that is its color.

Red substance is red because it absorbs all the color waves, but reflects the red waves.

But all the color waves the red substance absorbs, what happens to them? The atoms of the substance re-emit these waves right away at the same frequency? Or they emit at other frequency?

What you must first understand is that a "solid" is different than an "atom".

A solid has MORE stuff going for it than isolated atoms. There is something called "vibrational" spectrum, where the atoms that make up a solid can vibrate. There are also many other "collective" properties of a solid that are not present in isolated atoms. Most, if not all, of the common properties of a solid are due to such collective properties.

An absorbed light can do many things. One of them is that it causes greater the lattice vibration, i.e. the atoms in the solid to vibrate more vigorously. This is what we normally call heat. It is why a metal left in the sun gets heated up, because the absorbed energy has been converted into heat (vibration).

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Karagoz said:
But all the color waves the red substance absorbs, what happens to them? The atoms of the substance re-emit these waves right away at the same frequency? Or they emit at other frequency?
They are immediately converted to thermal energy and depending on the conditions may then be re-radiated at a lower frequency or just lose heat via convection or conduction. For example, objects on Earth are warmed by the sun, absorbing its energy which is in large part composed of the visual spectrum. Then they get hot and re-radiate infrared and also lose heat to conduction and convection.
 
Karagoz said:
They say that substances have color because when light waves of all colors hit the substance, the atoms do absorb all the colors, except those that is its color.

In addition to absorption, there could be wavelength-dependent scattering e.g. if pigments are present.
 

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