What Happens to Voltage in a Zener Diode Above Breakdown Voltage?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a zener diode when subjected to a reverse bias voltage that exceeds its breakdown voltage. Participants explore the implications of applying a voltage greater than the breakdown voltage, particularly focusing on voltage regulation and the characteristics of the diode in this scenario.

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  • One participant questions what happens when a zener diode with a breakdown voltage of 3V is connected to a 4V supply, expressing confusion about where the excess voltage drops and how the zener can provide a constant output voltage.
  • Another participant suggests that the internal resistance of the voltage source could account for the remaining voltage drop, indicating that if this resistance is low, the zener could experience nearly the full 4V, potentially leading to high current that could damage the diode.
  • A later reply reiterates concerns about the zener diode's ability to function as a voltage regulator under varying input voltages, questioning how it can maintain a constant output if the input fluctuates.
  • One participant notes that a series resistance with the source could help manage the voltage drop across the zener diode.
  • Another participant explains that a standard pn junction diode behaves similarly to a zener in reverse bias but is more susceptible to damage during breakdown, emphasizing the importance of the reverse characteristic curve in determining current.
  • Concerns are raised about power dissipation limits in zener or avalanche breakdown scenarios, highlighting that safe current levels are much lower compared to forward-biased operation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the behavior of zener diodes in reverse bias conditions, with no consensus reached on the implications for voltage regulation or the specifics of voltage drop management.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of internal resistance and series resistance in the context of voltage regulation, but the discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding these factors or their impact on the zener diode's performance.

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What would happen if in reverse bias of a pn junction diode voltage greater than/equal to breakdown voltage is applied?

Consider a zener diode with breakdown voltage 3V(just take as example).If we directly connect it with a voltage supply of 4V what would happen?I read that voltage across zener diode remains constant after breakdown. It means if we connect the 3V zener diode to 4V supply a potential drop of 3V would occur across zener diode, then what about the remaining 1V, where would it drop?If I am wrong and istead of 3V, whole 4V drops across zener then how could it give us constant DC voltage as it would change above breakdown?How could the zener diode be used then as a voltage regulator?

Please explain in detail I am having a lot of confusions regarding semiconductor devices specially in pn junction diodes.

Thank You.
 
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I'm not an expert but here's what I think will happen..There will be some internal resistance associated with the voltage source. If it is sufficiently high, that remaining 1V will be the drop across this internal resistance. If it is very low, then you'll have almost 4V across the zener. For a practical zener, the v-i graph is not a vertical straight line after the breakdown region, but a curve. So, on that curve, whatever the current is at V=4V(almost), will flow through the circuit. It will be very very high and can damage the diode.
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cnh1995 said:
I'm not an expert but here's what I think will happen..There will be some internal resistance associated with the voltage source. If it is sufficiently high, that remaining 1V will be the drop across this internal resistance. If it is very low, then you'll have almost 4V across the zener. For a practical zener, the v-i graph is not a vertical straight line after the breakdown region, but a curve. So, on that curve, whatever the current is at V=4V(almost), will flow through the circuit. It will be very very high and can damage the diode.
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Thanks for the help.
But then how could zener diode be used as voltage regulator because for different input voltage the output would be different?
 
Chaitanya V said:
Thanks for the help.
But then how could zener diode be used as voltage regulator because for different input voltage the output would be different?
In that case, there is a resistane in series with the source.

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cnh1995 said:
In that case, there is a resistane in series with the source.

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Thank You very much.
Could you please answer the first question?thats only the doubt remaining in my mind now.
"What would happen if in reverse bias of a pn junction diode voltage greater than/equal to breakdown voltage is applied?"
 
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Chaitanya V said:
"What would happen if in reverse bias of a pn junction diode voltage greater than/equal to breakdown voltage is applied?"
It will behave almost in the same manner as the zener does. Current will be determined by the reverse characteristic curve. The only difference is a pn juction diode is more likely to be damaged in reverse breakdown than the zener(which is "designed" to operate in the reverse breakdown mode).
 
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One problem associated with Zener or Avalanche breakdown of a diode is that the voltage drop is high and P = IV so the power dissipation limit (which must be relevant) will dictate a much lower safe current than for forward biassed operation.
 

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