What Happens When a Real or Complex Number is Raised to a Complex Power?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the mathematical implications of raising a real or complex number to a complex power, specifically examining expressions like \(2^i\) and the use of exponential and logarithmic functions in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the result of raising a real or complex number to a complex power, using \(2^i\) as an example.
  • Another participant provides the definition \(a^b = \exp(b \ln a)\) and notes the multivalued nature of the logarithm, indicating that there is no unique answer.
  • There is a clarification on the meaning of \(\exp(x)\), which is defined as \(e^x\), where \(e\) is the base of the natural logarithm.
  • One participant confirms the expression \(2^i = e^{i \ln(2)}\) and expresses interest in how to derive the form \(\cos(\ln(2)) + i \sin(\ln(2))\) from it.
  • Another participant explains the transition from \(e^{i \ln(2)}\) to the trigonometric form using Euler's formula, emphasizing the general definitions of exponential and logarithmic functions in the complex domain.
  • A participant mentions that their assumptions about another's mathematical education were incorrect, noting that in Australia, complex numbers are taught after exponential functions, and discusses Euler's formula derived from Taylor Series expansions.
  • One participant presents a generalized form for \(a^b\) when \(b\) is complex, breaking it down into real and imaginary components using Euler's formula.
  • A later reply introduces a question about the implications of raising matrices to a complex power, indicating a shift in focus to a different mathematical context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and transformations involving exponential and logarithmic functions in the context of complex powers, but there is no consensus on the implications for matrices raised to complex powers, as this topic was only briefly introduced.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about mathematical education and the order in which topics are taught, which may affect participants' understanding of the concepts discussed.

JPC
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hey, was wondering what would happen if i do :

a^b
with a : real or complex number
and b : a complex number

like : 2^i
 
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The definition:

a^b = \exp (b \ln a)

In general ln is multivalued (actually infinitely valued) so there is no unique answer.
 
whats exp() ?
i know log() , and ln() but never heard of exp()
 
exponential
e = 2.718281828
 
Specifically, exp(x) = e^x.
 
oh ok :

so
2^i = e^ ( i * ln(2))
?
 
Yup that is perfectly correct. Or if you want it split into real and imaginary parts: \cos (\ln 2) + i \sin (\ln 2)
 
Gib Z said:
Yup that is perfectly correct. Or if you want it split into real and imaginary parts: \cos (\ln 2) + i \sin (\ln 2)

ok
now that we started working on exp(x) in my class i know a bit more what you are talking about

But how do u pass from e^(i * ln(2) ) to \cos (\ln 2) + i \sin (\ln 2) ?
 
remember that exp(x) and ln(x) are defined in a more general sense as complex functions.
if a complex number is of the form z=a +ib then
exp(z)=exp(a+ ib)=exp(a)exp(ib) by additivity of exponentials and then using euler's formula: exp(z)=exp(a)(cosb +isin(b))
here the a is real so exp(a) is evaluating using the real definition.

The complex definitions of the trancesendental functions extend that of it's real analogue.

JPC: if you learning about the real exponential function for the first time you probably won't encounter euler's formula until later in the course - it's an application of power series.
 
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JPC, it seems my assumptions on your maths education are wrong, in Australia for some reason we do complex numbers after Exponential functions, forgive the pun but here they are seen as, well, more complex. Anyway, You obviously don't need to know what I say from here, so you can either choose to ignore my post completely or read more on what I say next: There is a famous relation that Euler derived through Taylor Series expansions that told him that e^{ix} = \cos x + i \sin x. I Merely used that identity straight off.
 
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For b=x+iy , a^b=a^{x+ i y}=a^x a^{i y} = a^x \exp(i y \ln (a)) = a^x (\cos (y \ln (a))+i \sin (y \ln (a))
by Euler's formula e^{i\theta}=\cos\theta+i\sin\theta.

I wonder what happens to A^B where both A and B are matrices
 
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