What happens when you point a laser-pointer into the sky?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the behavior of photons emitted from a laser pointer when directed into the sky, particularly regarding their ability to travel through the atmosphere and into space. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of light propagation, including interactions with matter and the implications of atmospheric conditions.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that photons from a laser pointer could theoretically travel indefinitely through space once they escape the atmosphere.
  • Others argue that in reality, photons will lose energy through interactions with matter, particularly in the atmosphere, which is dense enough to cause scattering.
  • It is suggested that if the photons make it out of the atmosphere, they would encounter very little matter in space, allowing them to travel further.
  • One participant mentions that astronauts have observed city lights from space, implying that light can travel significant distances.
  • Some participants express certainty that laser light can exit the atmosphere in a coherent form, but acknowledge that even in space, there is some gas that could eventually interact with the light.
  • A later reply references the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment, noting that lasers have been successfully used to measure distances to the moon, which demonstrates the ability of laser light to travel long distances.
  • Another participant reiterates the success of the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment, mentioning the placement of mirrors on the moon by astronauts to facilitate these measurements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that photons can escape the atmosphere and travel through space, but there is disagreement regarding the extent to which they will interact with matter and the implications of atmospheric scattering. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical limits of laser light travel in space.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence on atmospheric conditions and the presence of gas in space, which may affect the travel of laser light. There are also references to specific experiments that illustrate the concepts discussed, but the details of these experiments are not fully explored.

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Suppose it's a very clear night. You take a laser-pointer, and briefly allow it to "shine" into the sky.

Will the photons emitted from your laser actually make it millions of miles into space? Or will they somehow "dissipate" and not make it that far?

It would be very cool to think that just you or I could actually cause something to travel off into space and even long after we're gone, that that beam of light will still be traveling off into the stars.
 
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Theoretically I think it's possible for the photons to travel through space forever, but in reality they're probably going to give up all their energy in an interaction with matter after a finite travel time.
 
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If they make it out of the atmo, they're virtually home free. I think it would take lightyears of space to encounter that much matter again.
 
I would agree with the others and say that once out of the atmosphere, your photons will keep going until intercepted by matter. However, the atmosphere is pretty thick, so there would be quite a bit of scattering and whatnot for a little laser pointer.
 
Why use a laser pointer? Astronauts have been observing street lights from our cities since we started lofting them above the atmosphere...

By the way, your laser pointer has already attracted extraterrestrials. They are hovering in the skies over Mexico City even now...
 
I'm fairly certain that light from a laser pointer can make it out of the atmosphere in a virtually coherent form. However, even "empty" space contains some gas. So eventually all of the light would interact with matter.
 
arunma said:
I'm fairly certain that light from a laser pointer can make it out of the atmosphere in a virtually coherent form. However, even "empty" space contains some gas. So eventually all of the light would interact with matter.

Yup, this has happened already. I remember reading or someone telling that a laser on Earth was focused on the moon. I believe this is how they determined the distance from Earth to moon and also concluded that the moon is moving away from Earth at approx. 3.8cm(?) per year.

EDIT: the experiment is called Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment
 
ranger said:
Yup, this has happened already. I remember reading or someone telling that a laser on Earth was focused on the moon. I believe this is how they determined the distance from Earth to moon and also concluded that the moon is moving away from Earth at approx. 3.8cm(?) per year.

EDIT: the experiment is called Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment

Yes, this is true. As I recall, mirrors were placed on the moon by NASA astronauts who landed there in the early 70's, so as to facilitate this.

Obviously, the gas density in space is small enough that a laser beam would be able to travel quite a distance before scattering very much.
 

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