What I am doing wrong? arc length of parametric functions

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The discussion revolves around calculating the arc length of a parametrized curve defined by the functions x(t) and y(t). Participants explore the steps involved in setting up the arc length integral and address a specific issue where the initial calculations yield an incorrect result of zero instead of the expected value.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their approach to finding the arc length, including the calculation of derivatives dx/dt and dy/dt, and setting up the integral.
  • Another participant suggests that the issue may stem from not considering the absolute value in the square root, indicating that \(\sqrt{x^2} = |x|\).
  • A further reply emphasizes the need to separate the integral into two parts due to the behavior of the function within the specified limits, specifically noting the change in sign of the expression 2t - 8.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial calculations, as one participant continues to express confusion about the impact of the absolute value on the integral's result.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying absolute values in integrals and the need to consider piecewise functions when integrating over intervals where the function changes sign.

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So this seems to be a pretty straightforward question but I keep getting the arc length to be 0 and I redid this question many times..

Find the length of the parametrized curve given by

x(t) =[tex]t^{2}-8t + 24[/tex]
y(t) =[tex]t^{2}-8t -7[/tex]

How many units of distance are covered by the point P(t) =(x(t), y(t)) between t=0, and t =8?

So my first step of course is to find dx/dt and dy/dt
[tex]\frac{dx}{dt}=2t-8[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=2t-8[/tex]

Then set up the arc length equation
arc length = [tex]\int^{8}_{0}\sqrt{{\frac{dx}{dt}}^2+{\frac{dy}{dt}}^2}dt[/tex]
= [tex]\int^{8}_{0}\sqrt{{(2t-8)}^2+{(2t-8)}^2}dt[/tex]
= [tex]\int^{8}_{0}\sqrt{2{(2t-8)}^2}dt[/tex]
= [tex]\int^{8}_{0}\sqrt{2}(2t-8)dt[/tex]
=[tex]\sqrt{2}\int^{8}_{0}(2t-8)dt[/tex]
=[tex]\sqrt{2}\left[{t}^2-8t\right]^{8}_{0}dt[/tex]

Which give me an answer of zero when the answer is suppose to be 45.2548.

What I am doing wrong? Thanks.
 
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Have you forgotten that [itex]\sqrt{x^2}= |x|[/itex]?
 
But it still give me zero though. I don't see how it changes things. Could you elaborate a bit more? Thanks
 
you need [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex][tex]\int[/tex][tex]^{8}_{0}[/tex]|2t-8|dt. to integrate this, notice that from 0 to 4, 2t - 8 is the negative of |2t - 8|. so we must multiply it by -1 to get 8 - 2t. from 4 to 8 2t - 8 = |2t - 8|, so w,e can leave it as is. so you must separate this into two integrals, the 8 - 2t from 0 to 4, and 2t - 8 from 4 to 8, then add the results.
 
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Oh I see. Thanks so much
 

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