What is a limit of a sequence?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of limits of sequences, specifically focusing on the limit of the sequence defined by {2 [(-1)^n]} as n approaches infinity. Participants are exploring whether this sequence converges or diverges.

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  • Participants are questioning the nature of convergence and divergence for sequences that alternate in sign, particularly those involving (-1)^n. There are attempts to clarify the definition of a limit and its application to sequences.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants are providing definitions and clarifications about limits, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding the sequence's behavior. There is no explicit consensus on the limit's value or the sequence's convergence.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and properties of limits, indicating a potential gap in understanding foundational concepts. There is also mention of textbook definitions and the importance of precise language in discussing limits.

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for lim n to infinity {2 [(-1)^n] },what should i write either converges or diverges because it tends to be -2 or +2
 
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What is a limit of a sequence?
 
limit n to infinity
 
If I'm not mistaken, first thing you need to check in a series if the limit is unique , as in when the series limit is one number.
then you should check if that limit is zero or not , then you can apply usual methodes know to find out.
So in your case it diverge.
 
is it if there is (-1^n) and n limit to infinity means always diverges??
 
doesn't have to.
[(-1)^n]/n have a limit when n tends to be infinite 0 , this series converge.
I sense you don't know much about limits , maybe you didn't studied well that chapter.
it's fairly easy to know them.
 
Again, teng:
What is the definition of a limit?
 
"limit" is how a function's behavior changes when its argument(or variable) gets close to a certain value(or a point)
 
Not at all.
 
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why is that?
 
  • #11
Because what you wrote is meaningless.
Go back to your textbook and look up the definition of a limit to a sequence.
 
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but ur question simply says
arildno :
What is the definition of a limit?

u dint specify it was limit to a sequence...
 
  • #13
i just thought u were saying abt limit of a function...so sorry
 
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Isma said:
"limit" is how a function's behavior changes when its argument(or variable) gets close to a certain value(or a point)
Nah, this is neither the definition for limit of a function nor limit of a sequence...
You may want to look it up in your book. :)
By the way, are you teng125?
 
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Besides, a sequence IS a function.
 
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teng125 said:
for lim n to infinity {2 [(-1)^n] },what should i write either converges or diverges because it tends to be -2 or +2

OK, the lim inf is -2 and the lim sup is +2, and thus the lim is...
 
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teng:
Forget subsequences, lim infs and all that.
Those concepts won't help you a bit, because you betray an uncertainness abut the very concept of a limit in the first place.

Let us take a typical textbook definition:
"We say that a number L is a LIMIT of a sequence [itex]a_{n}[/tex] if for any [itex]\epsilon>0[/itex] there exists a number N, so that for any n>N, [itex]|a_{n}-L|<\epsilon[/itex]"<br /> Furthermore, a sequence is said to diverge if no such number L exists.<br /> <br /> 1. The first thing to note is that L (if it exists) is a NUMBER, and only that.<br /> It is not a hand-wavy action by which we describe the function's behaviour. It is a number. Period.<br /> <br /> 2. Secondly, the definition should be regarded as a recipe of detemining whether or not an arbitrarily chosen L is a limit to the sequence or not.<br /> <br /> 3. Let us for convenience sake pick L=2 first, and check whether it can be said to be a limit to the sequence:<br /> <br /> Consider the absolute valued difference: [tex]|2(-1)^{n}-2|[/tex]<br /> Now, when n is even, this difference equals 0, but when n is odd, the difference equals 4.<br /> Thus, by picking [itex]\epsilon<4[/itex], and remembering that odd numbers can be arbitrarily big, we see that there cannot exist a number N so that for ANY n>N, the difference is less than [itex]\epsilon[/itex]<br /> <br /> Thus, 2 cannot be regarded as a limit L to our sequence.<br /> <br /> <br /> Do you think -2 can be a limit?<br /> What about any other number?<br /> Answer those questions, and you have the answer to your own question.[/itex]
 

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