What is an acceptable risk to destroy the earth ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of acceptable risk in the context of potentially catastrophic events that could lead to the destruction of Earth. It explores ethical, philosophical, and scientific dimensions of risk assessment related to human actions, particularly in relation to the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and hypothetical scenarios involving black holes.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Philosophical exploration
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the acceptable risk of destroying Earth could be quantified similarly to car accident fatalities, suggesting a probability of 1/5000 per year based on current mortality statistics.
  • Others argue that the risk assessment should consider the totality of life on Earth, not just current human inhabitants, questioning the ethics of valuing only present lives.
  • A participant highlights the distinction between steady population decline and total annihilation, suggesting that different scenarios warrant different risk assessments.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of individual control over catastrophic risks, contrasting it with personal choices in everyday life, such as driving.
  • Some express skepticism about the likelihood of creating a doomsday black hole, while acknowledging the broader implications of human actions on extinction rates and environmental degradation.
  • Philosophical questions are posed regarding the intrinsic value of life on Earth in the absence of humans, challenging the notion of human-centric value judgments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on acceptable risk levels or the ethical considerations surrounding the destruction of Earth. Disagreement exists on whether to prioritize current human lives or consider the broader ecological impact.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of assessing risk, with discussions touching on ethical implications, the nature of extinction events, and the potential for future human life extension. The conversation remains open-ended, with various assumptions and definitions not fully resolved.

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muppet said:
The distinction was drawn earlier in the thread between an acceptable risk - one that we voluntarily assume, like getting in a car- and those circumstances over which we have no control.

This is true, but baywax also has a point, in that relatively high risk levels associated with choices of action are usually a comparison between risk and benefit, but if the involved risk is much lower than "natural and unavoidable" risks, then it would be a bit strange to prohibit it, as it would in any way just be "noise". If we can obtain the slightest benefit out of an action which poses a risk which is orders of smaller than the natural risk (such as asteroid impact) to get us all done, then I think the discussion is moot.
 

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