What is causing the LED to light up when touched without a direct connection?

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of an LED lighting up when touched, without a direct electrical connection. Participants explore the underlying mechanisms, including potential induction effects and the role of nearby power mains. The scope includes theoretical explanations and speculative reasoning about electrical fields and circuit behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an LED lighting up when touched, with varying brightness depending on the amount of metal involved and notes that touching the metal makes the LED go off.
  • Another participant suggests that the phenomenon may be due to an electric field generated by nearby power wires, potentially providing an electromotive force (EMF).
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the induction theory, arguing that if it were true, the LED would flicker due to the alternating current (AC) supply, rather than glow continuously.
  • Another participant speculates that the person's body might act as an antenna in a strong electric field, with the metal plate functioning as a capacitor, allowing current to flow through the LED when touched.
  • One participant humorously suggests that the cause might be the person's "electric personality."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms at play, particularly regarding the role of induction and the nature of the electric field. No consensus is reached on the exact cause of the LED lighting up.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the influence of nearby power mains and the characteristics of AC fields, but there are unresolved questions about the specific circuit behavior and the role of the capacitor.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring electrical phenomena, circuit theory, and the effects of electric fields on electronic components.

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An LED lights up when i touch it.
One leg is attached to a piece of metal, other is the one i touch.
Polarity does not matter.
Amount of metal maters - table frame makes it full bright, half-meter steel ruler makes it dim, a piece of wire makes it just visible.
Touching that piece of metal makes the light go off.

This only happens when there are power main wires nearby, which suggest an induction effect.
I want to reproduce that light without touching the LED.
The question is - what am i in the circuit?

I tried attaching the second leg to several coils, with not a slightest result.
I also tried a 680pF capacitor, also without a result.
Peculiarly, the LED is lit if i touch the side of the capacitor, which is ceramic.
Combing the hair to make static charges does not affect the brightness.
And that exhausts my familiarity with electricity.

What is going on here?
How can i get the LED to light up like that without touching it?
 
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Hook it up to a battery.
 
"This only happens when there are power main wires nearby".
There is an electric field outside a power wire.
That could provide the EMF.
 
Antientrophy said:
Hook it up to a battery.
That would be boring.
clem said:
"This only happens when there are power main wires nearby".
There is an electric field outside a power wire.
That could provide the EMF.
As i suspected.
The question is, what kind of circuit part me touching it is?
 
i doubt your induction theory . because if the induction is due to the ac supply then the led should be ON and OFF very rapidly . it should not glow continuously (@reverse bias of a diode ). of course that blink might not be tangible but its still a thought ... i can not explain the capacitor effect but i think referring to your original question you are the ground.
 
Maybe it's your electric personality? :-)

If you are in an area where there's a strong electric field from a local source (so the field drops sharply with distance), your body could act as a crude antenna, while the metal plate could be acting as a capacitor coupling it to ground. Then when you touch the LED, one half of the cycles conduct current thru the LED to illuminate it. If it's an AC mains field at 50 or 60Hz, it's too fast to detect the on/off blinking so it looks like it's on continuously. Just a guess!
 

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