What Is Lorentz Symmetry? Understanding & Differences

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The discussion centers around the concept of Lorentz symmetry, its definition, and its differences from cubic symmetry. Participants explore the implications of Lorentz symmetry in physics and whether it applies universally to various cosmic entities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on Lorentz symmetry and its distinction from cubic symmetry, noting that cubic symmetry involves different appearances based on viewing direction.
  • Another participant defines Lorentz symmetry as the principle that the laws of physics remain consistent regardless of orientation and speed, allowing for equivalent measurements across different frames of reference.
  • A repeated assertion emphasizes that Lorentz symmetry applies to measurements made with any device on any physical system, regardless of rotation or boost.
  • There is a question about whether all cosmic entities, such as stars and cosmic rays, adhere to Lorentz symmetry.
  • One participant expresses that, as of current knowledge, everything is believed to follow Lorentz symmetry, but acknowledges the potential for future discoveries that could indicate violations of this symmetry.
  • Another participant clarifies that Lorentz symmetry is applicable only to objects moving at constant velocities, referring to them as inertial observers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a general understanding of Lorentz symmetry, but there are differing views on its applicability to all cosmic entities and the conditions under which it holds, particularly regarding inertial observers.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions about the implications of potential Lorentz symmetry violations and the specific conditions under which Lorentz symmetry applies, particularly concerning non-inertial frames.

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I'm curious to know what Lorentz symmetry is, and how it works. The wiki description is a bit too difficult for me to understand. And how does it differ from a computer's cubic symmetry? I understand that in cubic symmetry, the laws of physics or physical things look different depending on what direction you are looking at it from, so how does Lorentz symmetry differ?
 
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Lorentz symmetry means that the laws of physics are the same regardless of orientation and speed.

In other words, you could take any measurement device and make a measurement on any physical system. Or you could rotate and/or boost the device and the system and get the same measurement.
 
Dale said:
Lorentz symmetry means that the laws of physics are the same regardless of orientation and speed.

In other words, you could take any measurement device and make a measurement on any physical system. Or you could rotate and/or boost the device and the system and get the same measurement.
Does everything in the universe eg. Stars, planets, cosmic rays etc. follow Lorentz symmetry then?
 
As far as we know right now.

Of course, tomorrow someone might report an experiment or observation that implies "Lorentz symmetry violation", and if it were confirmed, it would be a Really Big Deal.
 
TheQuestionGuy14 said:
Does everything in the universe eg. Stars, planets, cosmic rays etc. follow Lorentz symmetry then?
Lorenrz symmetry only applies between objects having constant velocities, i.e. inertial observers.
 
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