What is Magnitude in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of magnitude in physics, particularly focusing on its relation to displacement and distance. Participants explore definitions, examples, and the mathematical representation of these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define magnitude as a measure of "how big" something is, with a specific reference to vectors in three dimensions.
  • Magnitude of displacement is described as the length of the straight line between the initial and final positions, regardless of the path taken.
  • Displacement is characterized as a vector quantity that includes both magnitude and direction, while distance is defined as a scalar quantity that depends on the actual path taken.
  • One participant provides an example where a displacement of 5 km East has a magnitude of 5 km.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the relationship between distance and displacement, seeking clarification on formulas for both.
  • Participants emphasize that magnitude is always a positive value or zero.
  • A later reply introduces a reference to absolute magnitude in a different context, noting it is not meant to distract from the main topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of magnitude and displacement, but some express confusion about their relationship and seek further clarification. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding the formulas and specific applications.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for formulas to calculate displacement and magnitude, indicating a potential gap in understanding that is not fully addressed in the discussion.

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Actually, i have just been to class 11th so i m not clear about magnitude so please help me in knowing magnitude and magnitude of displacement...

what is magnitude in physics?
 
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Basically, magnitude just means how big it is.
If you have a vector (in, say, three dimensions) [tex]\vec x = (x_1, x_2, x_3)[/tex] then the magnitude of that vector is given by (Pythagoras): [tex]|\vec x| = \sqrt{x_1^2 + x_2^2 + x_3^2}[/tex].
 
still not very clear how it is related to distance and displacement...then wt is magnitude of displacement.
 
Welcome to PF!

nehach said:
Actually i have just been to class 11th so i m not clear about magnitude so please help me in knowing magnitude and magnitude of displacement...

Hi nehach ! Welcome to PF! :smile:

"magnitude" is a long word which means something very simple.

As CompuChip says, it just means how big something is.

For example, if something is displaced along the x-axis by 3, then the magnitude of its displacement is also 3.

But if something is displaced along the x-axis by -3, then the magnitude of its displacement is still 3. :smile:

(magnitude is always positive, or zero.)
 
nehach said:
still not very clear how it is related to distance and displacement...then wt is magnitude of displacement.
Displacement is a vector quantity defined as the change in position - from an initial point i to a final point f. Its magnitude is the length of the straight line between i and f and its direction is from i to f. The actual path taken is irrelevant.
Distance is a scaler quantity defined as the path length, i.e., it does depend on the actual path taken. Distance only equals the magnitude of the displacement for straight line paths.
Hope this hepls :smile:
 
if a person start from i and reach to f
distance between i and f is 5 km

i ----------5KM------------f

now kindly tell me what is magnitude and what is displacement
kindly tell me the formula how to calculate both of them

because i am confisued in this
 
Hi nehach! :smile:

Displacement: 5 km East.

Magnitude: 5 km.
 
thanks tiny-tim now its clear to me
 
hey could u please give me ur gmail id so that instead of wasting our time
we can discuss any problem directly
if u think ok
kindly give me ur gmail id

and kindly tell me the formula of calulating both displacement and magnitude
 
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Displacement is a vector quantity. It has direction and magnitude. The absolute quantity of vector is its magnitude.
You can use the formula posted by CompuChip to calculate it
Sorry if I said something wrong
 
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Simpler still, magnitude is the size or length (always positive or zero) of a vector, independent of the vector direction. "Displacement" in Newtonian physics, is a vector, and has two elements, a signed length (positive, negative, or zero) and a direction.
 
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thanks jeff i got it
 
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