What is meant by "basic" quantum mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around defining what constitutes "basic" quantum mechanics (QM), particularly in the context of online courses and educational prerequisites. Participants explore various topics that they believe should be included in a basic QM curriculum, touching on both theoretical and applied aspects of quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant lists several topics they believe define basic QM, including wave functions, the uncertainty principle, operator algebra, and various potential problems.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of including the hydrogen atom in the basic QM curriculum.
  • Some participants reference Griffiths' QM book as a benchmark for what should be included in basic QM.
  • There is a suggestion that perturbation theory, particularly time-independent perturbation theory, should also be considered part of basic QM, though this is noted as potentially contentious.
  • One participant questions the term "linear" harmonic oscillator and provides a personal interpretation based on their background in electronics.
  • Another participant clarifies that they are referring to the simplest case of a harmonic oscillator defined by a specific potential function.
  • There are suggestions for prioritizing certain topics over others, but it is also noted that the original list is not intended to be in any particular order.

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Participants express differing views on what should be included in basic QM, with no clear consensus on the exact boundaries between basic and advanced topics. Some agree on certain topics, while others propose additional elements or challenge the necessity of specific topics.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the ambiguity in defining "basic" versus "advanced" quantum mechanics, suggesting that the distinction may vary based on educational context and personal experience. There are references to different educational resources and curricula that may influence these definitions.

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I have been taking many online courses. In the prerequisites for many courses, it has been mentioned, "basic" quantum mechanics.

It has become important to define where the boundary of basic ends and the advanced level starts, though I believe that is not well defined. I have been studying QM since some time, and hence I want to know what are the basics of QM.

I have a list of topics. Please tell me if anything should be added or excluded.
  1. The concept of wave function and probability
  2. Uncertainty Principle
  3. Operator algebra and operator formulation rules (eigenstates, eigenvalues, types of operators and how to use them)
  4. Schrödinger Equation
  5. Probability Current density
  6. Infinite Square Well
  7. Finite Square Well
  8. Attractive Delta Function
  9. Linear Harmonic Oscillator
  10. The Step Potential
  11. Angular Momentum
  12. Spin Angular Momentum
  13. Central potential problems in 3D
  14. Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics
  15. Bose-Einstein Statistics
  16. Fermi-Dirac Statistics
Wherever applicable, the topics include finding the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions.
 
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For me, "basic quantum mechanics" always includes the hydrogen atom.
 
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Dr. Courtney said:
For me, "basic quantum mechanics" always includes the hydrogen atom.
Somehow forgot to add that.
 
To me, "basic" quantum mechanics includes the topics covered in Griffiths' QM book. It looks like you've summed up the topics covered quite nicely.
 
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Dishsoap said:
To me, "basic" quantum mechanics includes the topics covered in Griffiths' QM book. It looks like you've summed up the topics covered quite nicely.
But I've not taken them from Griffiths' book.
 
Wrichik Basu said:
I have been taking many online courses. In the prerequisites for many courses, it has been mentioned, "basic" quantum mechanics.
To me, "basic quantum mechanics" means the stuff covered in a typical "introductory modern physics" course which in the US comes after a first-year course using something like Halliday/Resnick or Young/Freedman, and before a full-on QM course using something like Griffiths. For many years I taught such a course, and still have a copy of Beiser's Concepts of Modern Physics (6th ed., 2003).

  • Chapter 5: Quantum Mechanics
    • The Wave Equation
    • Schrödinger's Equation: Time Dependent Form
    • Linearity and Superposition
    • Expectation Values
    • Operators, eigenfunctions and eigenvalues
    • Schrödinger's Equation: Steady-State Form (a.k.a. time independent S.E.)
    • Particle in a Box
    • Finite Potential Well
    • Tunnel Effect
    • Harmonic Oscillator
  • Chapter 6: Hydrogen Atom
    • Schrödinger's Equation in spherical coordinates
    • Separation of Variables
    • Quantum numbers: principal, orbital, magnetic
    • Probability densities
    • Transitions and selection rules
    • Zeeman effect
No Dirac notation. Orthogonality of eigenfunctions was discussed only in an exercise. (However, the intro modern course that I took as an undergraduate did discuss orthogonality and orthonormality, and extracting the coefficients of an eigenfunction expansion.) In the hydrogen atom, we did not derive the Legendre polynomials for the angular part of the solution, but simply presented them as the solutions. For the radial part, we simply presented the energy eigenvalues (no discussion of Laguerre polynomials).
 
Wrichik Basu said:
I have been taking many online courses. In the prerequisites for many courses, it has been mentioned, "basic" quantum mechanics.

It has become important to define where the boundary of basic ends and the advanced level starts, though I believe that is not well defined. I have been studying QM since some time, and hence I want to know what are the basics of QM.

I have a list of topics. Please tell me if anything should be added or excluded.
  1. The concept of wave function and probability
  2. Uncertainty Principle
  3. Operator algebra and operator formulation rules (eigenstates, eigenvalues, types of operators and how to use them)
  4. Schrödinger Equation
  5. Probability Current density
  6. Infinite Square Well
  7. Finite Square Well
  8. Attractive Delta Function
  9. Linear Harmonic Oscillator
  10. The Step Potential
  11. Angular Momentum
  12. Spin Angular Momentum
  13. Central potential problems in 3D
  14. Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics
  15. Bose-Einstein Statistics
  16. Fermi-Dirac Statistics
Wherever applicable, the topics include finding the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions.
What is ``linear" harmonic oscillator?

For me, basic QM includes some perturbation theory, at least time independent. But many could disagree.
 
nrqed said:
What is ``linear" harmonic oscillator?...

I have encountered the term "linear" harmonic oscillator in pre-1970's electronic design documents describing parametric amplifiers in the microwave spectrum.

Though seemingly contradictory terms I rationalized them at the time to refer to altering (apparently) linear parameters to change the resonant frequency of the oscillator. Simple example utilizing microwave (cm) waveguide: alter the cavity dimension by sliding an adjustable segment along the x-axis. A small "linear" displacement results in significant harmonic relocation. Hence, linear harmonic oscillator (LHO). [Note: this was a working hypotheses, unproven.]

After learning more mathematics I further rationalized the term "linear" to refer to first order solutions of ordinary differential equations that describe harmonic oscillation. While learning Min-Max applications in a linear algebra course, the instructor included a simple LHO circuit in a quiz. [Any confusion at this point is due to my poor skills describing math, not to mention using examples from electronics.]

Back to "Basic QM": If the OP assigns priority to the elements in their list, suggest they move #4 Shrodinger equations to just after, or combined with, #1 wave function.

Suggest prioritizing your study of #11 Angular momentum and #12 "spin momentum" and/or adding list element "Spin". I'm currently reading Roger Penrose "Road to Reality" again who regularly uses spin and spinors to inform the reader's understanding of the nature of reality at a quantum level.
( Penrose and Hawking wrote several helpful highly readable essays describing spacetime.)

List element #2: While Math is the "language of physics", many influential physicists thought, wrote, and spoke German. The German term "uncertainty" does not translate directly into English. Many myths and misunderstandings arise from overly broad translations of German into English in popular literature.
 
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nrqed said:
What is ``linear" harmonic oscillator?
I am talking of the simplest case of an oscillator with potential ##\frac{1}{2} m \omega ^2 x^2##. That's why linear.
 
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Klystron said:
Back to "Basic QM": If the OP assigns priority to the elements in their list, suggest they move #4 Shrodinger equations to just after, or combined with, #1 wave function.

Suggest prioritizing your study of #11 Angular momentum and #12 "spin momentum" and/or adding list element "Spin". I'm currently reading Roger Penrose "Road to Reality" again who regularly uses spin and spinors to inform the reader's understanding of the nature of reality at a quantum level.
( Penrose and Hawking wrote several helpful highly readable essays describing spacetime.)
The list is not a priority list. So the topics may be in any order. Anybody who decides to study using this list, should use a good book which has most of these topics. The author shall take care of priority.
 
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