What is necessary for an object to move?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions necessary for an object to move, touching on concepts from Newton's Laws, forces, and motion. Participants explore the relationship between mass, velocity, and motion, as well as the implications of relative motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question the necessity of mass and velocity for motion, with some suggesting that motion can be relative. Others raise the idea of constant velocity and the role of forces, including friction, in motion.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and questions about the concepts involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Newton's laws and the equation F=ma, though no consensus has been reached on the initial question.

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Participants mention that the question is part of a midterm review sheet, indicating a focus on foundational physics concepts such as forces, inertia, and friction. There are also references to specific equations related to motion and friction.

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Quick question, what is necessary for an object to move?

I want to say mass & velocity but is there anything else?
 
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kaed said:
Quick question, what is necessary for an object to move?

I want to say mass & velocity but is there anything else?

Welcome to the PF.

What is the context of the question? What course is this for? What have you learned so far about Newton's Laws?
 
Strange question! If an object has non-zero velocity, relative to some frame of reference then it is moving in the frame of reference. That does not require "mass" unless you are requiring mass in order to qualify as an "object".
 
I'm in physics and it's a question on my midterm review sheet that has Newton's Laws, Forces, Inertia, Free Body Diagrams, Weight, Gravitation and Friction on it.

Oh and I've learned all three of Newtons laws and actually just answered those questions.
 
I also have another question... If you push a box over a rough surface (high friction) at a constant speed, how much net force is there? How do you know?
 
kaed said:
Quick question, what is necessary for an object to move?

I want to say mass & velocity but is there anything else?

As Halls alludes to, there is a concept in physics known as "relative" motion. So the object can move relative to you if it is stationary and you walk past it. I'm guessing that in your intro physics class they just want you to refer to the equation F=ma for this, but I could be wrong. How would you use that equation to try to answer this question?

kaed said:
I also have another question... If you push a box over a rough surface (high friction) at a constant speed, how much net force is there? How do you know?

There is an equation relating the retarding force of friction to the weight of the object and the coefficient of friction. Can you find the explanation of that equation in your textbook?
 
berkeman said:
As Halls alludes to, there is a concept in physics known as "relative" motion. So the object can move relative to you if it is stationary and you walk past it. I'm guessing that in your intro physics class they just want you to refer to the equation F=ma for this, but I could be wrong. How would you use that equation to try to answer this question?

Um idk I thought that if it had 0 mass then nothing would be moving but you can have 0 acceleration and still have it moving because of a constant velocity.

berkeman said:
There is an equation relating the retarding force of friction to the weight of the object and the coefficient of friction. Can you find the explanation of that equation in your textbook?

Is it Ff = uFn?
Ff = friction
u = coefficient of friction
Fn = normal force
 
kaed said:
Um idk I thought that if it had 0 mass then nothing would be moving but you can have 0 acceleration and still have it moving because of a constant velocity.
Don't worry about the 0 mass case. The equation F=ma just says that the mass gives you the ratio between force and acceleration. And yes, if an object is already moving at a constant speed, no force is required to continue that motion (assuming no retarding forces exist like friction or air resistance, etc.)


kaed said:
Is it Ff = uFn?
Ff = friction
u = coefficient of friction
Fn = normal force
Yep!
 
kaed said:
Um idk I thought that if it had 0 mass then nothing would be moving but you can have 0 acceleration and still have it moving because of a constant velocity.

Don't worry about massless objects and frames of reference just yet. They are important, but at this point is might just lead to more confusion.
 
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Alright thanks for the help! I'm probably going to have more questions later but that's all for now.
 

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