What is Spatial and Temporal Coherence.

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of spatial and temporal coherence in wave phenomena, aiming to clarify their definitions and differences. Participants seek to understand these concepts in a straightforward manner, with a focus on their implications in physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a simple explanation of spatial and temporal coherence, expressing difficulty with existing resources.
  • Another participant explains coherence in terms of the relationship between amplitudes at different points, defining coherence as a measure of uncertainty between these points.
  • A participant specifically asks for the distinction between spatial and temporal coherence.
  • One response clarifies that spatial coherence involves two points in space, while temporal coherence involves two distinct moments in time.
  • Further elaboration describes spatial coherence as coherence across the beam and temporal coherence as coherence along the beam, using the example of a laser shining onto a screen to illustrate the concepts.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions of spatial and temporal coherence, although the discussion remains open to further clarification and understanding.

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Some assumptions about the definitions of coherence and the conditions under which coherence is measured may not be fully explored, leaving room for further discussion.

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Can anyone provide a simple explanation of spatial and temporal. I can't seem to understand the Wikipedia page on Coherence.
 
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The simplest way to understand the coherence of a wave is by considering two points in space or in time, dependng on if you are considering spatial or temporal coherence.

If you know the value of the amplitude of a wave at point A, what do you know about the amplitude at point B? If knowing the value at A tells you exactly the value at B, then it is coherent (coherence = 1). If knowing the value at A tells you nothing about the value at B, then it is incoherent (coherence = 0). If knowing the value at A tells you the value at B with a certain uncertainty, then you are somewhere inbetween (0 < coherence < 1), with the smaller uncertainty corresponding to a greater degree of coherence.

Hope this helps.
 
Yes, but what is the difference between spatial and temporal coherence?
 
For spatial coherence, you consider two points in space, for temporal coherence, two distinct instants.
 
Spatial coherence is coherence across the beam; temporal coherence is coherence along the beam.

The nomenclature comes from thinking about shining a laser onto a screen. Measure the phase of the wave at one point on the screen. If you've got a spatially coherent source, you can deduce the phase elsewhere in the patch (approximately, within a circle whose radius is the coherence length). On the other hand, if you've got a temporally coherent source, you can calculate the phase at the same point some time in the future (approximately, the time limit for this is the coherence time).

Does that clear up your confusion?
 

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