What is the angle between an arrow and a plane?

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The problem involves determining the angle between an arrow, represented by a line through two points in three-dimensional space, and a plane defined by three other points. The original poster expresses uncertainty regarding their calculations and seeks validation of their approach.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the equation of the plane and the direction vector of the arrow. They also explore the intersection point of the arrow with the plane and use the scalar product to find the angle. Some participants suggest reconsidering the relationship between the angle of the line and the normal to the plane.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing hints and alternative methods for finding the angle. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's calculations, but guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the angles and the use of vectors.

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Participants note that the original poster's approach may be overly complex, suggesting that simpler vector methods could suffice. There is a focus on the definitions of angles in relation to lines and planes, as well as the use of normal vectors.

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I'm a little uncertain concerning a math-question and would like to know if I've done anything wrong here, I do not have the correct answer which is why I'm asking.

Homework Statement


An arrow is shot in a straight line through the points (3, 4, -1) and (-2, 5, 2) and hits a plane containing the points (2, -1, 3) and (3, -3, 5) and (4, 0, 2). What is the angle between the arrow and the plane?

The Attempt at a Solution


I've done it like this, I first calculated the equation for the plane to be 0x + 5y + 5z - 10 = 0 and the direction of the arrow to (-5, 1, 3).

The arrow hits the plane in (17/4, 15/4, -7/4) and together with the arrow vector and the normal to the plane (0, 5, 5) a new plane can be calculated with help of the determinant. Its equation is 2x - 5y + 5z + 19 = 0.

I then calculated the line which the two planes have in common: x = -9/2-5t, y = 2-t, z = t.

And the last thing I did was to use the scalar product with (-5, -1, 1) and (-5, 1, 3), which gave me the answer that the angle equals about 29 degrees (28,56).

Is this correct?
 
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Hi Anden! :smile:
Anden said:
An arrow is shot in a straight line through the points (3, 4, -1) and (-2, 5, 2) and hits a plane containing the points (2, -1, 3) and (3, -3, 5) and (4, 0, 2). What is the angle between the arrow and the plane?

I've done it like this, I first calculated the equation for the plane to be 0x + 5y + 5z - 10 = 0 and the direction of the arrow to (-5, 1, 3).

The arrow hits the plane in (17/4, 15/4, -7/4) and together with the arrow vector and the normal to the plane (0, 5, 5) a new plane can be calculated with help of the determinant. Its equation is 2x - 5y + 5z + 19 = 0. …

eugh!

Hint: the angle between the line and the plane is 90º minus the angle between the line and the normal (and you can find the normal directly from the three points). :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Anden! :smile:


eugh!

Hint: the angle between the line and the plane is 90º minus the angle between the line and the normal (and you can find the normal directly from the three points). :wink:

Ok, LOL (Pardon the expression :smile:)

The scalar product of the normal (0, 5, 5) and the vector (-5, 1, 3) is 4/\sqrt{70} = cos a which gives a = 61,439 and 90-a = 28,56.

Thank you very much! :rolleyes:
 
Hi Anden! :smile:

Just one more tip:

you don't necessarily need to write equations for lines and planes

in this case, all you needed were vectors parallel to the line and to the normal, and for the normal you could just have used the cross product of two vectors in the plane. :wink:
 

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