What is the angular velocity of the two disks combined?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two disks, one rotating and one stationary, and seeks to determine the angular velocity of the combined system after they stick together. The context is centered around the conservation of angular momentum and the moment of inertia of the disks.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of angular momentum using linear velocity and mass, but questions arise regarding the need to incorporate moment of inertia. Some participants suggest using the moment of inertia formula for solid disks to set up the equations correctly.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, particularly focusing on the correct application of moment of inertia in the conservation of angular momentum. There is acknowledgment of a potential method involving moment of inertia, and one participant has calculated an angular velocity based on this approach, seeking confirmation of its correctness.

Contextual Notes

There is a discussion about the assumptions regarding the system's setup, particularly whether the linear velocity is the same for both disks after they combine. The original poster's calculations differ from the answer key, prompting further examination of the underlying concepts.

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Homework Statement



A 1.6 kg disk with radius 0.63 m is rotating freely at 55 rad/s around an axis perpendicular to its center. A second disk that is not rotating is dropped onto the first disk so that their centers align, and they stick together. The mass of the second disk is 0.45 kg and its radius is 0.38 m. What is the angular velocity of the two disks combined?
rad/s

m1 = 1.6 Kg
r1 = 0.63 m
w1 = 55 rad/s
m2 = 0.45 Kg
r2 = 0.38 m


Homework Equations



conservation of angular momentum

L=mvr

v=rw

The Attempt at a Solution



i set up the equation as... (m1)(v1)(r1)=(m1r1 + m2r2)(v)

where v1 = r1w1 and v is equal to the linear velocity(which should be same for both?)

I solved for v, and then divided by r1, since that's the radius of the whole system, and got an answer of 47.02rad/s. The answer key says the answer is 50 rad/s...

which concept did i get wrong?
 
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Welcome to PF.

For rotational momentum don't you want to consider the Moment of Inertia of the disks and not just the mass?

For a solid disk I = 1/2*m*r2
 
LowlyPion said:
Welcome to PF.

For rotational momentum don't you want to consider the Moment of Inertia of the disks and not just the mass?

For a solid disk I = 1/2*m*r2

Thanks a lot for that tip...

So by using moment, i would have...

(Iinitial)(winitial) = (Ifinal)(wfinal)

(1/2)(m1)(r1)^2(w1) = (1/2)(m1(r1)^2+m2(r2)^2)(w2) where w2 is the final angular velocity

I get 49.89rad/s for w2...just wanted to confirm i was doing it right...
 
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mastamind518 said:
Thanks a lot for that tip...

So by using moment, i would have...

(Iinitial)(winitial) = (Ifinal)(wfinal)

(1/2)(m1)(r1)^2(w1) = (1/2)(m1(r1)^2+m2(r2)^2)(w2) where w2 is the final angular velocity

I get 49.89rad/s for w2...just wanted to confirm i was doing it right...

Without calculating it out, that looks like the right approach.
 

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