What is the Average of Cosine of Theta over a Specific Range?

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The average of cos(θ) over the interval from 0 to π cannot be -π/2, as cos(θ) ranges between -1 and 1. The correct average value is calculated using a weighted average approach, which accounts for the distribution of θ. The discussion highlights the importance of integrating over the correct interval and understanding the implications of a non-uniform distribution. Misinterpretations of the average can lead to incorrect conclusions about its value. The accurate average for cos(θ) in this context requires careful consideration of the distribution and integration limits.
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The average of \##\cos \theta ## for ##\theta## going from 0 to ##\pi## is - ##\pi/2##.
Is this correcct?
 

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Pushoam said:
The average of \##\cos \theta ## for ##\theta## going from 0 to ##\pi## is - ##\pi/2##.
Is this correcct?

Certainly not! Cos(theta) is always between -1 and 1. How could its average over any interval ever be -1.57?
 
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Pushoam said:
The average of \cosθcos⁡θ\cos \theta for θθ\theta going from 0 to ππ\pi is - π/2π/2\pi/2.
Plot the graph and see the area under the cos function between 0 to pi. What does that tell you about its average?
 
cnh1995 said:
Plot the graph and see the area under the cos function between 0 to pi. What does that tell you about its average?
The average required in this question is a weighted average, so its value is not evident from such a graph. Or were you just saying this is a way to see what the limits must be on any such average?
 
phyzguy said:
Certainly not! Cos(theta) is always between -1 and 1. How could its average over any interval ever be -1.57?
Sorry, it is ##\frac{-2}{\pi}##. Right?
 
Pushoam said:
Sorry, it is ##\frac{-2}{\pi}##. Right?
If we ignore the actual question and ask for the average value of cos(θ) over the interval 0 to π then we would assume a uniform distribution of θ over that interval. And, no, the answer is not -2/π. How do you get that?
But this is irrelevant here. The given information alters the probability distribution of θ, leading to a different average.
 
##<\cos\theta>= \frac{\int_0^{\pi/2} \cos\theta d\, \theta} {\int_0^{\pi/2} d\, \theta} = \frac2{-\pi}##
 
Pushoam said:
##<\cos\theta>= \frac{\int_0^{\pi/2} \cos\theta d\, \theta} {\int_0^{\pi/2} d\, \theta} = \frac2{-\pi}##
Three problems with that:
  1. You wrote in post #1 that you wanted the average over 0 to π, not 0 to π/2.
  2. The integral above does not produce a negative answer.
  3. This is irrelevant to the question at hand. As I wrote, that formula gives the average for a uniform distribution of θ over the range. In this question you have other information, and that results in a non-uniform distribution. You need a weighted average.
 

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