What is the Best Book to Learn Topology for General Relativity?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for books on topology specifically for learning general relativity. Participants explore various texts and their relevance to the subject, considering the balance between general topology and its applications in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions studying Sadri Hassani's mathematical physics book and seeks an introductory topology book for general relativity.
  • Another suggests Wheeler's "Gravitation" as detailed but notes it is not the latest, having been published in 1974.
  • A different participant expresses a preference for Nakahara's "Geometry, Topology and Physics," highlighting its coverage of spacetime topology and gauge theories.
  • One participant critiques purely topology books for their limited relevance to general relativity, recommending Gamelin and Greene's text for its affordability and focus on metric spaces and algebraic topology.
  • Another participant mentions Munkres' topology book as the best but acknowledges its expense and difficulty for beginners, suggesting that many topology books focus excessively on general topology rather than the algebraic aspects relevant to physics.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding the motivation for learning topology, asking if it is seen as necessary for understanding general relativity or for other reasons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best resources for learning topology in the context of general relativity, with no consensus on a single recommended book. There is also a discussion about the relevance of general versus algebraic topology, indicating a lack of agreement on the necessity of general topology knowledge.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that many topology books may not directly address the needs of physics students, particularly in relation to general relativity. There is also mention of varying levels of difficulty and focus in the recommended texts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and educators in physics and mathematics seeking guidance on topology resources relevant to general relativity.

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Hello
i studied Sadri Hassani az mathematical physics book.
if i want to learn topology (( for general relativity )) what it the best book for introduction ?
 
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mathematicians will beat me but I like Nakahara "Geometry, topology and physics"; it has something to say about spacetime (differential) topology, Riemannian & Kähler manifolds, but in addition it focusses on gauge theories and fibre bundles
 
Most purely topology books will spend a lot of time being useless to GR. The intro books cover mostly just general topology. I like Gamelin and Greene and it is pretty cheap. It starts with metric spaces and finishes with a bit of algebraic topo. Kasriel's Undergraduate Topology gets good reviews, but I didn't really like it. The best is Munkres, but it is expensive and hard to get into unless you are in a class or very dedicated to topology.

You may want to skip general topology unless you want to learn it in general for fun. I took a general topology (point-set topology) class that spent the last two weeks with an intro to algebraic topology. I am glad I took the class, but most topo of interest to physics is algebraic, and most topology books spend a lot of time on general topology.

So, my opinion, is Gamelin and Greene Intro to Topology for an inexpensive reference for general topology ideas without as much detail as an Analyst would want, and a physics book with more algebraic topology.
 
world line said:
Hello
i studied Sadri Hassani az mathematical physics book.

Which book, Mathematical Methods for Students of Physics and Related Fields, or Mathematical Physics: A Modern Introduction to Its Foundations?
world line said:
if i want to learn topology (( for general relativity )) what it the best book for introduction ?

Do you want to learn topology because: 1) you think that some knowledge of topology is necessary prior to learning general relativity; or 2) you have seen topological arguments used is general relativity, for example, in Hawking and Ellis; or 3) of some other reason?
 

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