What is the Best Software for Virtual Wind Tunnel and CFD Analysis?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding suitable software for virtual wind tunnel simulations and computational fluid dynamics (CFD) analysis, particularly for designing nose cones and analyzing shock wave formation at supersonic speeds. Participants explore various software options, theoretical references, and practical approaches related to CFD.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Ryan, seeks recommendations for virtual wind tunnel and CFD software to design nose cones and analyze shock waves at supersonic speeds.
  • Another participant mentions that CFD can be considered a "virtual wind tunnel" but notes the potential cost barriers for individual users, suggesting open-source options like OpenFOAM.
  • A suggestion is made to write a quasi-2D solver for the Euler equations as a practice exercise, although the complexity of adapting it for external flow is acknowledged.
  • Participants discuss the importance of theoretical resources, with one recommending the book "Computational Fluid Dynamics" by Tannehill, Anderson, and Pletcher, and a website for further reference.
  • Reference to the NACA 1135 report is made, which covers supersonic gas dynamics and provides information on conical shock formation, indicating that it could be useful for the analysis of shock angles and downstream properties.
  • There is a recognition that while the NACA 1135 report is valuable for simple geometries like wedges and cones, more complex analyses may require numerical methods and software for detailed CFD visualizations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on the utility of the NACA 1135 report for basic analyses, while also acknowledging that more advanced CFD analysis may necessitate numerical approaches. There is no consensus on a specific software recommendation, and multiple viewpoints on the adequacy of theoretical resources versus practical software solutions remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the availability of affordable CFD software for individual users and the dependency on theoretical knowledge for practical applications. The complexity of adapting theoretical models for specific cases is also noted.

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HI
i am looking some virtual windtunnel software that there i have to desgin a various nose cone and i have to find the shock wave formation at supersonic speed
please some one help me to find the virtual windtunnel and CFD software


regards
Ryan
 
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CFD in general 'is' kind of a "virtual windtunnel." However, unless you have scholastic access to some, typically a single user won't be able to afford one. I thought I heard of an open-source one a while back, openFOAM or something like that, but have no idea of anything about it and couldn't say a thing to save my life.

However, for practice, it wouldn't be that hard to write a quasi-2D solver for the Euler equations. That's something that we did in my CFDII class a while back. It was a full internal flow, so I'm not real sure how hard it would be to convert the equations for an external flow, but it would be doable.

I don't think I have the equations anymore, but they should be available somewhere. The only odd term was the A(x) term which I believe was multiplied by a derivative term.
 
hi thanks for your reply, can u suggest some CFD books and website for my further reference
 
CFD books are typically the theory and development behind the solvers. I personally have "Computational Fluid Dynamics" by Tannehill,Anderson, and Pletcher.

Try this as well:
http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Fluid_dynamics
 
vincentryan said:
HI
i am looking some virtual windtunnel software that there i have to desgin a various nose cone and i have to find the shock wave formation at supersonic speed
please some one help me to find the virtual windtunnel and CFD software


regards
Ryan

the NACA 1135 report covers supersonic gas dynamics. there's a table on conical shock formation. essentially all you need to know is 2 of the three to find the third: cone half angle, shock angle, and mach number. the report also has it for oblique shocks.

could probably do 90% if not all of your work with that report
 
That analysis IIRC is for simple wedges and cones. If you're just looking for shock angle and downstream properties then it will work. If you're looking for more advanced analysis, you might need something numerical.

The 1135 is a great reference though.
 
minger said:
That analysis IIRC is for simple wedges and cones. If you're just looking for shock angle and downstream properties then it will work. If you're looking for more advanced analysis, you might need something numerical.

The 1135 is a great reference though.

yup. just for simple wedges and cones. however, lots of problems can be simplified to simple wedges and cones. depending on the OP's exact problem, a rocket maybe, you can find pressure, density, temp, speed behind the shock.

its just missing the pretty CFD pictures...
 

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