What is the best way to introduce Laplace transforms in an Engineering Mathematics course?

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The discussion revolves around the introduction of Laplace transforms in an Engineering Mathematics course, focusing on practical applications, teaching strategies, and the relevance of the topic to students. Participants explore various methods to motivate students and highlight the significance of Laplace transforms in engineering contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the practical applications of Laplace transforms, suggesting that other methods may be easier for solving differential equations.
  • Others argue that Laplace transforms are essential in electrical engineering, particularly for analyzing circuits and transient responses, emphasizing their use in the 's' domain.
  • A participant mentions that Laplace transforms facilitate the conversion of differential equations into algebraic equations, which can simplify problem-solving.
  • Some contributions highlight that in the electrical engineering field, Laplace transforms are commonly used for transfer functions and are preferred over Fourier transforms.
  • One participant suggests introducing Laplace transforms by framing them as a useful tool in real-life applications, rather than just another mathematical theorem.

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Participants express a mix of views regarding the effectiveness and necessity of Laplace transforms in engineering education. While some see them as vital for practical applications, others believe there are simpler methods for solving differential equations. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the best approach to teaching this topic.

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Some participants note that the effectiveness of Laplace transforms may depend on the specific engineering context and the students' backgrounds, suggesting that assumptions about prior knowledge could influence how the topic is introduced.

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Readers interested in engineering education, particularly those involved in teaching mathematics or electrical engineering, may find the discussion relevant for understanding different approaches to introducing complex mathematical concepts.

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Are there any practical applications of Laplace transform? I would not use Laplace transforms to solve first, second-order ordinary differential equations as it is much easier by other methods even if it has a pulse forcing function.

How can Laplace transforms be introduced so that students are motivated to learn? It needs to have an impact.

What are the applications of Laplace transforms?
 
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In one of my Electrical Engineering courses (I think Signal Processing), the component reactance values are represented with Laplace.

For example, a resistor is just a number (the resistance in Ohms).

An inductor is L*s, where L is the inductance in Henries, and Capacitor is 1/(C*s). From there it's just Algebra to get the impedance of the entire circuit, then can use Unit Step functions or Sine functions as the source to drive them and get the response at each component.

There are other types of problems that are easier to work with in the 's' domain, rather than time domain.
 
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matqkks said:

What is the best way to introduce Laplace transforms ...​

"Class, today I am going to introduce you to your nemesis."
 
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matqkks said:
Are there any practical applications of Laplace transform?
OMG. Ask an analog/controls EE, like me. It is the go to method for transient response solutions. It is the language used for transfer functions. In my world ##j \omega## and Fourier transforms hardly exist, everything is done in the ##s## domain. Having said that, it's more looking things up in tables and applying theorems like shifting and superposition, not really brute force mathematical solutions.
 
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Just to elaborate a bit about Laplace in the EE world. Consider an RLC low pass filter.

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A physics student would write out something like
##v_i = Ri + L \frac{di}{dt} + \frac{1}{C} \int{i}{dt} ##
##v_o = \frac{1}{C} \int{i}{dt} ##
and proceed to solve the DEs

An analog EE would use the familiar voltage divider formula with complex impedances and just write out the solution in the ##s## domain immediately.
##\frac{v_o}{v_i} = \frac{ \frac{1}{sC} }{R+sL+\frac{1}{sC}} = \frac{1}{1 + sRC + s^2LC}##

Chances are we'd never invert it into the ##t## domain but just look at Bode plots and such. Our spectrum analyzers and FRAs give us the frequency domain data anyway. Many of us work in the frequency domain most of the time. If we needed to invert the transform, we'd first look in a table of common transform pairs.

IMO, Laplace transforms are the basis for phasors and complex impedances, even though they aren't taught that way initially. You can always set ##s=j \omega## and do that complex arithmetic when needed.
 
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I introduce it as a method to turn a differential equation into an algebraic equation. They only need to so a transform and an inverse transform to get the homogeneous and inhomogeneous solutions.
 
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Dr Transport said:
I introduce it as a method to turn a differential equation into an algebraic equation. They only need to so a transform and an inverse transform to get the homogeneous and inhomogeneous solutions.
I like this; first explain why students should pay attention. Explain that this is something that can be really useful IRL. The method I saw first looked like just another math theorem, another transform that looked confusing.
 
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