What is the block's displacement when it first comes to rest again?

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The problem involves a block attached to a spring, where the block is displaced and released. The task is to determine the block's displacement when it first comes to rest again, considering the effects of spring potential energy and friction.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between spring potential energy and energy dissipated by friction. There are attempts to set up equations based on energy conservation principles, with some questioning the notation and setup of the equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing guidance on terminology and the correct arrangement of terms in equations. There is a sense of progress as one participant expresses increased confidence after receiving feedback.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the proper setup of energy equations and the definitions used, particularly in relation to the energy lost to friction versus the potential energy of the spring.

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Homework Statement



  1. A block with mass m = 1.46 kg is attached to a spring with spring constant k = 52.0 N/m and negligible mass. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the table is µk = 0.349. The block is displaced from its equilibrium position to the left by 0.203 m and released from rest. Calculate the block's displacement when it first comes to rest again.

Homework Equations


Thermal energy=Ff * x
Us= 0.5kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Ff= MuN= (1.46 x 9.8)(0.349)=4.99 N
Us(initial)= 0.5(52)(-0.203^2)
Us(final)= 0.5(52)Xfinal
initial thermal and spring energy=final thermal and spring energy
(4.99)(-0.203)+26(0.203^2)=4.99x +26x^2
i tried to solve it, plugged it into a quadratic equation but am still getting the wrong answer.

Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? Thanks!
 
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PhysicsMan999 said:
Thermal energy=Ff * x
Instead of calling it thermal energy, call it energy dissipated by friction. Note that x is the distance traveled by the mass.

PhysicsMan999 said:
Us= 0.5kx^2
OK. Here x is the displacement from equilibrium. Careful with notation!

PhysicsMan999 said:
initial thermal and spring energy=final thermal and spring energy
(4.99)(-0.203)+26(0.203^2)=4.99x +26x^2
Careful! You start and end with pure spring potential energy, the difference being the energy lost to friction.
 
Okay, so now I got:
4.99 (0.203+x)=26x^2-26(0.203^2)
plugged everything in and still didn't get the correct answer.
 
PhysicsMan999 said:
Okay, so now I got:
4.99 (0.203+x)=26x^2-26(0.203^2)
The two terms on the right hand side are in the wrong order. You want initial U minus final U.
 
Okay awesome! Thank you very much haha I had been going at this one for a good 45 minutes! I feel pretty confident I understand it now just needed a bit of guidance. Thanks again!
 

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