What Is the Cartesian Diver Experiment?

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The discussion revolves around the Cartesian Diver experiment, focusing on the principles of buoyancy and Boyle's Law. Participants explore the mechanics of the experiment, including the behavior of air and water under pressure, and the implications for understanding density and volume changes.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the process of the experiment and poses questions about the behavior of air and water when pressure is applied.
  • Another participant suggests that when water enters the diver, it increases the diver's weight, thereby increasing its density.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that the volume of the diver changes when air is compressed, also affecting its density.
  • Some participants discuss the relationship between pressure and volume, referencing Boyle's Law and its implications for the diver's behavior.
  • There is a question about the effect of pressure on the air bubble in the diver and whether its size remains constant.
  • One participant draws a parallel to scuba diving, explaining how changes in air volume in lungs affect buoyancy underwater.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the explanations for the diver's behavior, particularly about the relationship between pressure, volume, and density. Multiple competing views on the mechanics involved remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their understanding of the pressure dynamics and buoyancy principles, indicating a need for further clarification on specific aspects of the experiment.

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Readers interested in experimental physics, buoyancy concepts, and applications of gas laws may find this discussion relevant.

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Has anyone ever done an experiment called "The Cartesian Diver"? The instructions are below, just in case...:smile:

1. The medicine dropper is the "diver" which will be put into the water.

2. Fill the graduated cylinder with water to about an inch from the top.

3. Fill the medicine dropper almost the entire way with water. You may need to turn it over and fill it to get enough water into the dropper.

4. Place the diver into the graduated cylinder. It should just float on top of the water. If it sinks, you have too much water in the dropper. Take it out an release one or two drops of water.

5. Cut the balloon in half following the diagram.

6. Stretch the balloon to cover the mouth of the cylinder tightly and wrap the rubber band around the top to hold the balloon tightly in place.

7. Press on the balloon with your thumb. Watch the diver closely. Look at the water level in the diver. The diver should sink to the bottom of the cylinder. IF IT DOES NOT SINK, there is not enough water in the diver. Repeat steps 2-6, putting more water into the dropper.


I've done the experiment so now I have to do the questions.

1. What happens to the air in the top of the graduated cylinder when you press on the balloon?

When I press down on the top of the graduated cylinder, the air is pressed down as well.

2. What does this do to the water level in the diver? Why?

The water in the diver seems to go up to the top of the medicine dropper.

3. What happens to the air in the diver when you press on the balloon?

When I press on the balloon, the air in the diver appears to be going towards the bottom of the medicine dropper.

4. Why does the diver sink?

The diver sinks because the volume of the air decreases.

5. This is a demonstration of "Boyle's Law" which relates pressure and volume. Fill in the blanks below:

When air pressure increases, the volume of the air _______________. [decreases]

When air pressure decreases, the volume of the air ______________. [increases]


Could someone tell me if what I have now is right? I don't know the "why" part for number two and I don't think I have number four right (and/or explained all that well). If someone could explain it to me or give me a link, I would appreciate it.:smile:
 
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ohh man i wrote a huge explanation but after reaing it i became really confused.
1-When water goes inside (because the air was compressed, the divers weighs more, making the density greater.
or
2-When air is compressed the volume of the diver changes and is decreased, making densty greater.
or
3-Both...

I wrote a big explanation on the 2nd one, but then i thought about it, and the i came with the 1st idea i stated above...which makes more sense to me. In other words, i believe the volume is always the same, unless volume = the total space with no particles in it inside an object which would mean both 1st and 2nd idea are true...

Sry i couldn't help you that much except give you some ideas.

though i could help you by giving you this link:
http://physics.about.com/cs/airandfluidexp/a/040703a_2.htm
But makes me unsure of which of my ideas is right.
 
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I've done the experiment so now I have to do the questions.
1. What happens to the air in the top of the graduated cylinder when you press on the balloon?
When I press down on the top of the graduated cylinder, the air is pressed down as well.
yes, but what happens to the pressure of that air?

2. What does this do to the water level in the diver? Why?
The water in the diver seems to go up to the top of the medicine dropper.
first part is correct. The why part has to do with what is happening to the pressure in the water
3. What happens to the air in the diver when you press on the balloon?
When I press on the balloon, the air in the diver appears to be going towards the bottom of the medicine dropper.
it may appear so, but does the size of the air bubble stay the same?
4. Why does the diver sink?
The diver sinks because the volume of the air decreases.
that's only a partial answer, why would the diver sink when the volume of air decreases? [hint: has to do with buoyancy]
5. This is a demonstration of "Boyle's Law" which relates pressure and volume. Fill in the blanks below:
When air pressure increases, the volume of the air _______________. [decreases]
correct
When air pressure decreases, the volume of the air ______________. [increases]
correct

Could someone tell me if what I have now is right? I don't know the "why" part for number two and I don't think I have number four right (and/or explained all that well). If someone could explain it to me or give me a link, I would appreciate it.:smile:
btw, this same process occurs if you were a scuba diver and submerged to various depths of water. The air bubble would be the volume of air in your lungs and the pressure changes relative to depth. If you were neutrally buoyant at some depth, you would neither sink nor float. However if you inhaled you increase the air space in your lungs and you float up, if you exhale, you decrease that same air space and sink. That is an important way divers can control their vertical position while submerged.
 
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Thank you, I appreciate the help. ^_^
 
for question # 1.
what happens the the air pressure?
 

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