What is the change in internal energy of the water

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems related to thermodynamics and heat transfer. The first problem involves the final temperature of a system consisting of ice and water, while the second problem concerns the change in internal energy of water when it is converted to steam at constant pressure.

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  • Participants explore the energy calculations required to determine the final temperature of a mixture of ice and water, questioning the assumptions made in the energy balance. There is also discussion about the change in internal energy during the phase change from water to steam, with attempts to apply relevant equations.

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Some participants have provided corrections and clarifications regarding the calculations for the first problem, indicating that additional energy is needed to warm the melted ice to the final temperature. The second problem appears to have reached a resolution, with one participant confirming their calculations for the change in internal energy.

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Hi there, I have some serious problems with a couple of questions. Need help for exam revision.
1.1 Homework Statement
A 2kg chunck of ice at -10Celsius is added to 5kg of water at 45Celsius. What is the final temperature of the system?

1.2 Relevant equations
specific heat capacity of ice - 2100 Jkg-1K-1
specific heat capacity of water - 4190 Jkg-1K-1
latent heat of fusion for ice - 334 000 Jkg-11.3 The attempt at a solution
Using formula E=mC(change in)T
E1 - 2 x 2100 x 10 = 42000J
E2 - 2 x 334 000 = 668 000J
E3 - 668 000 + 42 000 = 710 000J
E4 - 710 000=5 x 4190 x (change in)T T=33.89Celsius, so final temperature is 45-33.89=11.11, but the correct answer has to be 7.9Celsius.

2.1 Homework Statement
A cylinder with a piston contains 0.2 kg of water at 100 Celsius. What is the change in internal energy of the water when it is converted to steam at 100Celsius at a constant pressure of 105 Nm-2?

2.2 Relevant equations
latent heat of vaporisation of water - 2.26 x 106 Jkg-1
density of water - 1000 kgm-3
density of steam - 0.6 kgm-3

2.3 The attempt at a solution
Using (change in) U=(change in)Q - P x (change in)V
U=internal energy, Q=heat, P=pressure, V=volume
Change in heat is 2.26 x 106 x 0.2 = 452 000 J
Can't manage more :(.
Supposed answer is 418.7 kJ.
 
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"E4 - 710 000=5 x 4190 x (change in)T"

This is not correct.

You have to warm up to the 2kg 0 oC melted ice to the final temperature.
 


Sorry, I can't see it still. I know it has taken 710 000Joules of energy to get the ice to 0 Celisu and melt completely to water. So I thought i simply take that energy away from the water at 45 Celsius. Thus using Energy=mass*specific heat capacity of water* change in temperature to get the change in temperature from 45.
 


It is true that you need that 710000 J to warm up and melt the ice to oC water. That energy is taken away from the 45 oC water, but you still have 2 kg 0 oC water to be warm up to the final temperature.

ehild
 


Thank you Ehil, I got the answer to question 1 now.
Worked out solution to question 2 as well.
Change in heat is 0.2 x 2.26 x 106 Jkg-1=452 000 Joules
Pressure is already given at 100 000 Pa
Original volume is mass/density, so 0.2/1000=0.0002m3.
Mass stays the same, so 0.2kg of steam occupies: 0.2/0.6=0.333333 m3 of space. Change in volume is the volume of steam - volume of water, 0.333333-0.0002=0.333133m3.
So using the overall equation: 452 0000J - 100 000Pa x 0.333133m3=418 686.7 J.
Can close the thread.
 
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