What is the completion of an incomplete metric space?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of completing an incomplete metric space, specifically examining the existence of a Cauchy sequence in an incomplete space that does not converge within that space but does converge in its completion. Participants are exploring the implications of this concept and questioning the nature of the elements in the completion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the definition of a Cauchy sequence and its implications in both the incomplete metric space and its completion. There is an exploration of whether the completion contains only the limit point of the Cauchy sequence or if it may include other points from the sequence.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into the relationship between the incomplete space and its completion, particularly regarding the properties of Cauchy sequences. There is an ongoing inquiry into the completeness of the space and the nature of the elements in the completion, with some participants questioning assumptions and definitions.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of completeness and the nature of metric spaces, with some uncertainty about the implications of these definitions on the elements contained in the completion. There is a noted lack of consensus on whether the completion contains only the limit point of the Cauchy sequence.

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Homework Statement



Let X be an incomplete metric space. and Let X' denote its completion. I would like to show that there is Cauchy sequence in X which does not converge in X but does converge in X'. Moreover, I want to show that X contains every element of the sequence except the limit point.

Homework Equations



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Definition: A complete metric space is one in which every Cauchy sequence converges.

Definition: A Cauchy sequence { x_n } is one for which given any epsilon > 0 there exists a natural N such that if m,n > N then d(x_n,x_m) < epsilon.

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, negating the definition of a metric space we should be able to find a cauchy sequence which does not converge in X.

My next line of argument would be to say that since X is isometrically embedded in X'. Then { x_n } is also a Cauchy sequence in X' and thus converges in X'.

However, I'm not sure if it is always the case that X' \ X will always only contain the limit point. Can it not contain other points in the sequence?
 
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jdstokes said:

Homework Statement



Let X be an incomplete metric space. and Let X' denote its completion. I would like to show that there is Cauchy sequence in X which does not converge in X but does converge in X'. Moreover, I want to show that X contains every element of the sequence except the limit point.

Homework Equations



No equations as such other than the

Definition: A complete metric space is one in which every Cauchy sequence converges.

Definition: A Cauchy sequence { x_n } is one for which given any epsilon > 0 there exists a natural N such that if m,n > N then d(x_n,x_m) < epsilon.


The Attempt at a Solution



Well, negating the definition of a metric space we should be able to find a cauchy sequence which does not converge in X.
I assume that was a typo and you mean "negating the definition of complete". Yes, since you are given that X is NOT complete, there must exist a Cauchy sequence in X which does not converge.

My next line of argument would be to say that since X is isometrically embedded in X'. Then { x_n } is also a Cauchy sequence in X' and thus converges in X'.

However, I'm not sure if it is always the case that X' \ X will always only contain the limit point. Can it not contain other points in the sequence?
Technically, there exist an isometric ((distance preserving), one-to-one function , f(xn)= x'n is in X'. Can you determine whether x'n is a Cauchy sequence in X'? If so, then since you know that X' is complete, the sequence {x'n} must converg to some point x'. Does there exist x in X such that f(x)= x'? If so what would be its relation to the sequence {xn}?
 
HallsofIvy said:
I assume that was a typo and you mean "negating the definition of complete". Yes, since you are given that X is NOT complete, there must exist a Cauchy sequence in X which does not converge.


Technically, there exist an isometric ((distance preserving), one-to-one function , f(xn)= x'n is in X'. Can you determine whether x'n is a Cauchy sequence in X'?

Yes, we just choose the same natural number N since d(x_n,x_m) = d'(x_n',x_m').

HallsofIvy said:
If so, then since you know that X' is complete, the sequence {x'n} must converg to some point x'. Does there exist x in X such that f(x)= x'? If so what would be its relation to the sequence {xn}?

If there existed x in X such that f(x) = x'. Then d'(x', x_m') = d(x, x_m). But lim d(x,x_m) = lim d'(x',x_m') = 0 which would imply that { x_n } converges in X (contradiction).

I'm still struggling to show that f(X) contains every element of the sequence except the limit point. Is this actually true?
 
What, exactly, is the definition of "completion" of a metric space?
 

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