What Is the Correct Approach to Integrate 2*arctan(x) by Parts?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the function 2*arctan(x) with respect to x. Participants are exploring the application of integration by parts and questioning the effectiveness of this method in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt integration by parts, defining u and dv, but express confusion over the results obtained. Others suggest reconsidering the approach and propose a substitution method instead.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different methods for solving the integral. While some participants have found alternative approaches, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to use. Questions about the effectiveness of integration by parts are raised, indicating a productive dialogue.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the choice of variables in integration by parts and the implications of their selections. There is mention of a substitution method that may simplify the problem, but the original poster's approach appears to lead to confusion.

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Homework Statement


problem: \int2arctanx dx
2\intarctan dx

u=arctanx
du=1/(1+x2)
v=x
dv=dx

xarctanx-\intx/(1+x2)

integrate by parts a second time...

u=x
du=dx
v=arctanx
dv=1/1+x2

xarctanx-\intarctanx

My final answer I get it 2xarctanx-2xarctanx+2/x2+1 which is obviously wrong. Thanks.
 
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PCSL said:

Homework Statement


problem: \int2arctanx dx
2\intarctan dx

u=arctanx
du=1/(1+x2)
v=x
dv=dx

xarctanx-\intx/(1+x2)

Don't go integration by parts here, just do a substitution of u=1+x2
 
rock.freak667 said:
Don't go integration by parts here, just do a substitution of u=1+x2
Thanks, I got the answer. This may seem like a dumb question, but how come integration by parts didn't work for this part?
 
PCSL said:

Homework Statement


problem: \int2arctanx dx
2\intarctan dx

u=arctanx
du=1/(1+x2)
v=x
dv=dx

xarctanx-\intx/(1+x2)

integrate by parts a second time...

u=x
du=dx
v=arctanx
dv=1/1+x2

xarctanx-\intarctanx

My final answer I get it 2xarctanx-2xarctanx+2/x2+1 which is obviously wrong. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Because 2/(x^ 1) is the <b>derivative</b> of arctan(x), not the integral.<br /> <br /> Your choice of &quot;u&quot; and &quot;dv&quot; are just the results you got from the first integration by parts so you are just reversing the first integration. What you would correctly get is <br /> x arctan(x)- x arctan(x)+ \int arctan(x)dx= \int arctan(x)dx<br /> exactly what you started with.
 

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