What Is the Correct Calculation for Induced EMF in This Circuit Scenario?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of induced electromotive force (EMF) in a specific circuit scenario. Participants are exploring different answers to the questions posed, examining their reasoning and the implications of circuit configurations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims the induced EMF for the first question is 3V and for the second question is 6V, inviting others to provide different answers.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the answers and mentions a video that contradicts their understanding, indicating disagreement with the professor's explanation.
  • A participant suggests that everyone should share their reasoning in the thread to avoid searching elsewhere, emphasizing the importance of individual thought processes.
  • One participant provides a detailed calculation, stating that the EMF of one loop is 3.3V, leading to a total of 6.6V for two loops, and calculates the current and voltage across resistors R1 and R2.
  • Another participant acknowledges being close to the correct answer but admits to making several errors, attributing the mistake to a misinterpretation of the circuit diagram.
  • A later reply suggests that the induced EMF of the newly added loop should be considered as superimposed on the original voltage, indicating a need for careful analysis of the circuit diagram.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the correct calculations and interpretations of the circuit scenario.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions and potential misunderstandings regarding the circuit diagram and the relationships between the components, which remain unresolved.

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Interesting and seemingly tricky question about induced electromagnetic force
I think the answer to the first question is 3V and the answer to the second question is 6V
Does anyone have a different answer?
 
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How come you found this one and not the

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seemingly tricky question
seemingly :rolleyes: ?

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BvU said:
How come you found this one and not the ...

To be honest, when I started this discussion topic, I didn’t know that another video already showed the answer.

However, Youtube’s artificial intelligence quickly sent this video to my computer screen, I have watched it, but I am sorry, I may be wrong, but I really disagree with the answer provided by the professor, and I just posted my comment below the video.
 
alan123hk said:
and I just posted my comment below the video.
So how about you post your reasoning here in YOUR thread so that we all don't have to go searching elsewhere
 
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davenn said:
So how about you post your reasoning here in YOUR thread so that we all don't have to go searching elsewhere

Because everyone has their own reasons and answers, I hope to give everyone time to think in their own way. When they see answers provided by others (not necessarily including the reasoning process), they may reconsider their reasoning. In addition, maybe many people (including myself) are not 100% sure that their answers are correct, so it is understandable that in this case, people may be patient and not rush to tell the details.

But you are also right. On the other hand, no one seems interested in providing answer so far. I might as well talk about my reasoning as follows,

Since the EMF of one loop is equal to 0.3+3=3.3V, the EMF of the two loops is twice, that is 6.6V, so the current of the two turns closed loop is equal to 6.6V/ (1 + 10) ohm = 0.6A, so the voltage across R1 becomes 0.6A*1 ohm = 0.6V , and the voltage across R2 becomes 0.6A * 10 ohms = 6V. :smile:
 
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Close but wrong. On several counts. Sit out the spoiler -- it really is no punishment.
 
BvU said:
Close but wrong. On several counts.
Thanks for the hint, I got it wrong. Instead of looking at the circuit diagram carefully, I built another circuit structure in my mind for reasoning. :oops:

Take a closer look at the original circuit diagram, the induced EMF of the newly added loop is just superimposed on the original V2.

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