What Is the Correct Laplace Solution for This Differential Equation?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Laplace transform to solve a differential equation involving a Dirac delta function. The original poster presents their work on the equation y'' + 2y' - 3y = Dirac(t) and expresses confusion regarding the correct form of the solution, particularly in relation to the concept of a "limited solution."

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Laplace transform but questions their handling of initial conditions and the meaning of "limited solution." Some participants suggest that initial values are crucial for the transformation, while others explore the implications of the term "limited solution" and its relation to the behavior of the solution as t approaches infinity.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's approach, questioning the omission of initial conditions and discussing the implications of the "limited solution." There is a recognition of the need for clarity regarding the initial value problem (IVP) and how it affects the solution. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the use of Heaviside functions.

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There is mention of the initial conditions being somewhat unconventional, with one being specified "prior" to t=0, which may be contributing to the confusion. The term "limited solution" is also under discussion, with implications for the growth of the solution being considered.

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I have

y'' + 2y' - 3y = Dirac(t)

I use the laplacetransformation and get

s^2Y + 2sY - 3Y = 1

Y = 1/4 * 1/(s-1) - 1/4 * 1/(s+3) (skipped some steps)

I try to use inverselaplace and receive

y = 1/4*exp(t) * H(t) - 1/4 * exp(-3t)*H(t)

Where H(t) is the heaviside function.
the correct answear should be 1/4*exp(t) *( H(t) -1) - 1/4 * exp(-3t)*H(t).

What am I doing wrong. They ask for "the limited solution" does that mean anything particulairy?

Thnx for any help
 
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You left out the initial values when you performed the Laplace transform on the original DE.
 
Tide said:
You left out the initial values when you performed the Laplace transform on the original DE.


There were no initial values if you mean like y(0) och y'(0). But I think I understand it anyhow. the key lies in the "limited solution". A limited solution can't eb allowed to grow infinite, and therefor we have to compensate for the 1/4 exp(t)
 
Hello guys. Are you referring to the following IVP:

[tex]y^{''}+2y^{'}-3y=\delta_0(t);\quad y(0)=0\quad y^{'}(0)=0^-[/tex]

(You'll need initial conditions to solve via Laplace transforms.)

It's a bit awkward that one initial condition is given "prior" to t=0. Perhaps this is the "limiting" case the author refers to. Anyway, I don't get all those Heaviside's. I get one and it has to be inserted manually:

[tex]y(t)=H(t)\left(\frac{e^t}{4}-\frac{e^{-3t}}{4}\right)[/tex]
 
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