What is the correct way to find the x'root'9^12?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves the expression (9^(3/x))^4 and seeks to understand the implications of the variable x in relation to the expression x'root'9^12. Participants are tasked with calculating this without the use of a calculator.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to interpret the expression and the role of x in determining the outcome. There are attempts to clarify the notation and the full problem statement. Some participants question how the calculator's output relates to the variable x and whether the problem was presented correctly.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different values for x and their implications on the expression. Some suggest that the problem may have been misprinted, leading to confusion about the variable. There is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation or solution at this stage.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not provide additional context or constraints regarding x, leading to varied interpretations. There is mention of a potential printing error affecting the clarity of the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


(9^(3/x))^4
(without calculator)


Homework Equations


a^n/m = m'root'a^n


The Attempt at a Solution



adding the powers: 3/x*4/1 = 12/x

9^12/x

x'root'9^12 = ?

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Ok, it's supposed to be 27, but how can you know something that are being rooted from x?

The calculator says it's 2.655 when I use the x'root'9^12 (It's incorrect and I'm not allowed to do that)

How does it get that from x? And what is the correct way to find it?
 
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I don't understand your notation, and it does seem like you would need x in order to work out the problem. What is the full problem statement? Does it say "find x for each of the following", or something? Or given that x=(something), work out each of the following...

Is this what you are trying to write? ( {9^\frac{3}{x}} )^4
 
That's excactly what I try to write, Thanks, and no, it doesn't say anything more than:

Calculate without using your calculator:
a)
b)
c)
d)
e)
f) ( {9^\frac{3}{x}} )^4

(plus the relevant equation at the top of the page of a^n/m = m'root'a^n (I don't know the equation code for that)
 
Well, you can certainly calculate it for x = 1, 3, and 6, and all give different answers. So the answer is not independent of x. Given the relevant equation that you've listed (which must be part of the subject matter for the section you are working on), they must want you to just re-write the number... ? Which is what you did. I don't see how you can go farther without knowing x, with or without a calculator.

\sqrt[x]{9^{12}}
 
Thanks, I will tell my teacher this tomorrow.

(still don't know why my calculator came up with his weird answer, but I will ask him that too)
 
Jarle said:
Thanks, I will tell my teacher this tomorrow.

(still don't know why my calculator came up with his weird answer, but I will ask him that too)

Oh great! Gonna get me in trouble with the prof, eh? :smile:

BTW, your calculator gave you an answer because there was already something in the x register, most likely. Just left over from whatever your previous calculation was. Try it again, this time explicitly putting in the values 1, 3, 6, and see what the three answers are that you get (hopefully they'll be the same ones you worked out in your head).
 
You are safe behind the internet wall, so don't worry :)
He is a smart guy though...

EDIT: This is kind of embarrasing... :redface:

It might be that the machine that printed out this question have accidentaly cut away the top and bottom of the number "8", so it showed X instead. It's probably supposed to be 8, and that's is correct too...

See how much a little mistake can make lots of useless work for a poor fellow??
 
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Jarle said:

Homework Statement


(9^(3/x))^4
(without calculator)


Homework Equations


a^n/m = m'root'a^n


The Attempt at a Solution



adding the powers: 3/x*4/1 = 12/x

9^12/x

x'root'9^12 = ?

----------------------

Ok, it's supposed to be 27, but how can you know something that are being rooted from x?

The calculator says it's 2.655 when I use the x'root'9^12 (It's incorrect and I'm not allowed to do that)

How does it get that from x? And what is the correct way to find it?

What's supposed to be 27.

If x is 27, and
9^{(\frac{12}{x}) } = y
then y does equal 2.655.

If
9^{(\frac{12}{x}) } = 27
then you can solve for x.

The second makes more sense if you're supposed to solve this without a calculator.
 
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Oh, we posted at the same time...

I understand how we can find X, and It's probably going to be "8" if you read the post I made...

sorry about this... :frown:
 
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Jarle said:
It might be that the machine that printed out this question have accidentaly cut away the top and bottom of the number "8", so it showed X instead. It's probably supposed to be 8, and that's is correct too...

Oh my gosh, that's funny in a weird way. I think that's a new one -- a printing error that totally changes the meaning of the problem. Even if I had solved for 8 as the only possibility for x, I don't think I would have seen the geometric clue that x was really an 8. Oh well, all's well that ends well.
 

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