What is the deceleration of a snowboarder going up a 5.0° slope?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the deceleration of a snowboarder ascending a 5.0° slope, with a coefficient of friction of 0.1. The correct deceleration is identified as 1.83 m/s², but confusion arises regarding the forces at play. The force calculated as 0.854 N is actually the component of gravitational force acting down the slope, not a force propelling the snowboarder upward. Both gravitational force and kinetic friction oppose the snowboarder's motion, leading to deceleration. Clarification is provided that there is no upward force; instead, gravity and friction work together to slow the snowboarder down.
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Homework Statement



Calculate the deceleration of a snowboarder going up a 5.0° slope, assuming the coefficient of friction for waxed wood on wet snow ( = 0.1).

Homework Equations



F = ma
W = mg
Fs = (Fn)
Fk = k (Fn)

The Attempt at a Solution



Answer key says it's 1.83 m/s2. I fiddled around with the numbers I got and I was able to get the right answer, but I don't understand why it's the right answer. Below is my work.

Normal force = 9.8 (assuming the snowboarder has a mass of 1 kg)

Force pushing the snowboarder UP the hill: 9.8 sin (5 degrees) = 0.854 (Is this right?? Is there a force pushing him up the hill??)

Kinetic friction = * Fn = 0.1 * 9.8 = 0.98 N

Sum the horizontal forces, applying Newton's Second Law of Motion...

a = (∑Fx) / m

(a = acceleration, Fx = all horizontal forces, m = mass)

Because the 0.854 is the force pushing him up the hill, and the kinetic friction works opposite to that, I subtracted the kinetic friction value from the 0.854. So...

a = (0.854 - 0.98) / m......(m is assumed to be 1)
a = -0.126 / 1
a = -0.126 m/s2

But if I simply add the two force values that I found - add the kinetic friction and the force parallel to the hill -- I get 1.834, which is the correct answer. That means that my assumption that 0.854 N was pushing the snowboarder up the hill was wrong. So both the 0.854 N and the kinetic friction must be working in the same direction.

But if there's no force pushing him up the hill, and I'm not given an initial velocity up the hill, then how can there be any motion at all? He'd be going down the hill, not up it.

Please explain why the 0.854 N and kinetic friction are working in the same direction, since kinetic friction is supposed to work in the opposite direction of the attempted motion.
 
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ThePiGeek314 said:
Normal force = 9.8 (assuming the snowboarder has a mass of 1 kg)
Only on a horizontal surface.
You don't have to assume a mass. Just use m as mass, it will cancel in the calculations.
Then you can also work with units, which makes it easier to spot mistakes.
ThePiGeek314 said:
Force pushing the snowboarder UP the hill: 9.8 sin (5 degrees) = 0.854 (Is this right?? Is there a force pushing him up the hill??)
Where would such a force come from?
ThePiGeek314 said:
since kinetic friction is supposed to work in the opposite direction of the attempted motion.
Both gravity and friction slow down the snowboarder, they are both against the direction of motion. There is no force pushing anyone upwards.
 
Got it - because the 0.854 N was calculated as a function of the force of gravity - 9.8 sin Θ, so it's the gravitational force pulling the skier down the hill. Thank you!
 
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