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Please refer to the below image (Example 5).
Do anyone know how 5x^4 > 1 > 0?
Do anyone know how 5x^4 > 1 > 0?
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askor said:Please refer to the below image (Example 5).
Do anyone know how 5x^4 > 1 > 0?
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Math_QED said:If ##5x^4 < 1## there would be a negative number under the root thus this is not part of the domain of the function.Therefore they assume ##5x^4 \geq 1##.
fresh_42 said:I suspect that the domain here are the real numbers, although not explicitly mentioned. But for ##|u| < 1## the root ##\sqrt{u^2-1}## becomes negative, and square roots of negative numbers like ##\sqrt{-1}## aren't real. ##|u|=1## is forbidden since the denominator would be zero.
For ##u=5x^4## this translates to the requirement ##|u|=|5x^4|=5x^4 > 1##.
Yes.askor said:So, if ##|u| < 1## and ##|u| = 1## are forbidden, what the value of ##|u|## should be?
Is it ##|u| > 1##?
No.If yes, isn't ##|u| > 1## is equal to ##-1 > u > 1## (from what I learned about inequality property)?
I know you don't mean what you said. If |u| < 1, then ##u^2 - 1 < 0##, so ##\sqrt{u^2 - 1}## isn't real.fresh_42 said:I suspect that the domain here are the real numbers, although not explicitly mentioned. But for ##|u| < 1## the root ##\sqrt{u^2-1}## becomes negative
fresh_42 said:, and square roots of negative numbers like ##\sqrt{-1}## aren't real. ##|u|=1## is forbidden since the denominator would be zero.
For ##u=5x^4## this translates to the requirement ##|u|=|5x^4|=5x^4 > 1##.
By which branch of the graph of y = sec-1(x) you're on. See the graph here: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y=arcsec(x)askor said:How do I know if x > 1 or x < -1?