What is the derivative of y with respect to x at the point (2,-3)?

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To find the derivative dy/dx at the point (2,-3) for the equation y^2 - 2xy = 21, implicit differentiation is required. The initial attempt mistakenly combined terms, leading to an incorrect expression for dy/dx. The correct approach involves isolating dy/dx on one side of the equation after differentiating both sides. The discussion emphasizes that both implicit and explicit differentiation should yield the same result. Ultimately, the correct method will clarify the calculation of dy/dx at the specified point.
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Homework Statement


If y^2 - 2xy=21, then dy/dx at the point (2,-3) is ?


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y^2 - 2xy=21


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I know that I have to differentiate the function. I just do not know how to do it: implicitly or explicitly.
 
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Why not try both ways?

Actually, you should get the same (correct) answer doing either.)
 
i tried to diff it in terms of dy/dx but I don't think i got it right. i got dy/dx to equal 2y+2x
 
what I did was...
y^2= 2xy +21
2dy/dx=2(y+x(dy/dx))
2(dy/dx)= 2y+2x(dy/dx)
Divide by dy/dx on both sides
dy/dx=2y+2x
 
Never mind, I see what I did wrong. I should have put the two dy/dx's on the same side, take out dy/dx and then just divide to get dy/dx alone.
 
y^2= 2xy +21
2dy/dx=2(y+x(dy/dx))


This step is wrong. It should be
2y*dy/dx = 2(y+x(dy/dx))
 
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