What is the difference between probability and probability density?

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The discussion centers on the distinction between probability and probability density, particularly in the context of continuous distributions. Participants explore theoretical explanations and examples, including applications in quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the concept of probability density and its difference from probability.
  • Another participant explains that probability density represents probability per "area" and is used for events within a continuous distribution, illustrating this with the example of picking a number from the interval [0,1].
  • The same participant notes that the probability of selecting a specific number in a continuous distribution is zero, while the probability of selecting a number within a range can be calculated.
  • They provide a mathematical expression for the radial distribution of the hydrogen atom's 1s orbital, relating it to probability density and probability calculations.
  • Further, they assert that probability can describe events in discrete distributions, while probability density is necessary for continuous systems due to the infinite nature of possible outcomes.
  • A subsequent post confirms that the probability density for finding a number in a specific range within [0,1] is valid due to the uniform distribution of decimals.
  • Another participant acknowledges the need for distribution functions in quantum mechanics, indicating a connection to the broader topic.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions and applications of probability and probability density, but there are nuances in the examples and contexts discussed, particularly regarding uniform versus non-uniform distributions.

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The discussion does not resolve all aspects of the definitions and applications of probability and probability density, particularly in relation to different types of distributions.

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Like the title, I don't quite understand what probability density is and its difference with probability. Can someone explain a bit on this?
 
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Probability density refers to probably per "area", used to represent probably of an event within a certain interval from a continuous distribution of events. Consider for example an event: randomly picking .50000... from a hat of all real numbers in [0,1]. What's the probability of this event? Zero; 1 in infinity numbers. But what is the probability of picking a number x, such that x<.5000..., from [0,1]. One half, of course. That's a probability density.

So, the radial distribution of the hydrogen atom 1s orbital
[tex]P(r) = 4\pi r^{2}\psi_{100}[/tex]
gives a distribution of probabilties of finding an electron at a radius r. Probability is then
[tex]P=\int_{a}^{b}4\pi r^{2}\psi_{100} \,dr[/tex]
on the radial interval [a,b].
 
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blkqi said:
Probability density refers to probably per "area", used to represent probably of an event within a certain interval from a continuous distribution of events. Consider for example an event: randomly picking .50000... from a hat of all real numbers in [0,1]. What's the probability of this event? Zero; 1 in infinity numbers. But what is the probability of picking a number x, such that x<.5000..., from [0,1]. One half, of course. That's a probability density.

So, the radial distribution of the hydrogen atom 1s orbital
[tex]P(r) = 4\pi r^{2}\psi_{100}[/tex]
gives a distribution of probabilties of finding an electron at a radius r. Probability is then
[tex]P=\int_{a}^{b}4\pi r^{2}\psi_{100} \,dr[/tex]
on the radial interval [a,b].

So, probability can be used to describe an event within a discrete distribution which has finite entities and probability density is for an interval in a continuous system. This is because there are infinite entities in a continuous system and any probability of finding a specific one is zero and hence we have to use probability density to describe it.

In this sense, for that example, can we say the probability density of finding a number x, such that 0.3<x<0.5 from [0,1] is (0.5-0.3)/1?
 
ray.deng83 said:
In this sense, for that example, can we say the probability density of finding a number x, such that 0.3<x<0.5 from [0,1] is (0.5-0.3)/1?
Yes, because the distribution of decimals in [0,1] is uniform. In quantum mechanics we commonly deal with non-uniform wavefunctions.
 
Yes and that's why we need those distribution functions. Thanks for your help!
 

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